Is it a good enough fleet for Darokyun too weak?

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Is it a good enough fleet for Darokyun too weak?

Postby JMISBEST » Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:27 pm

I'm thinking of writing A Traveller Story for A Sci-Fii loving Friend of mine that like's Stories but dislikes RPG's, it'll basically tell the story of The Pirates of Drinax Campaign from Darokyn's Point of View and want to know if you think its a good enough fleet for Darokyn to have at around the rough point in the campaign were it the 3rd part ends and the 4th part stops and want to know if you think the following fleet is to small for him to have around The Year 1,125? or after almost 52 years as A Pirate

It is made up of the following ships. 41 200 ton, 21 100 ton, 9 600 ton, 7 400 ton, 4 300 ton, 1 500 ton, 1 800 ton, 1 1,000 ton, 1 1,200, 1 1,500 ton, 1 1,600 ton, 1 2,000 ton, 1 Custom Build 2,300 ton Version of The Corsair, his 2nd in command's Personnel Ship -A Custom Build 3,000 ton Version of The 8,000 ton Ritchey and his Flagship -A Custom Build 4,400 ton Version of The 2,000 ton Escort Carrier
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Re: Is it a good enough fleet for Darokyun too weak?

Postby Old School » Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:14 pm

Yes. Be sure to post your story here when it’s complete.
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Re: Is it a good enough fleet for Darokyun too weak?

Postby JMISBEST » Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:20 pm

Old School wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:14 pm
Yes. Be sure to post your story here when it’s complete.
I sadly can't do that as I'd almost finished it a mere 3 minutes ago, due to how tired I was accidentally deleted the only copy and won't find the time for months, likely ever, to write it all again. Sorry
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Re: Is it a good enough fleet for Darokyun too weak?

Postby Old School » Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:30 pm

I don’t believe you. Quit lying or quit posting.
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Re: Is it a good enough fleet for Darokyun too weak?

Postby JMISBEST » Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:41 pm

Old School wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:30 pm
I don’t believe you. Quit lying or quit posting.
It happens or at least to me. I've done that kind of thing before when tired
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Re: Is it a good enough fleet for Darokyun too weak?

Postby Moppy » Mon Dec 02, 2019 1:24 am

Old School wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:30 pm
I don’t believe you. Quit lying or quit posting.
Why do you enjoy harassing users?

There are better ways to say what you want to say.
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Re: Is it a good enough fleet for Darokyun too weak?

Postby Old School » Mon Dec 02, 2019 12:32 pm

I’m not harassing. I’m calling out a troll who repeatedly abuses the goodwill of the members of this forum.
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Re: Is it a good enough fleet for Darokyun too weak?

Postby Moppy » Mon Dec 02, 2019 12:58 pm

Old School wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 12:32 pm
I’m not harassing. I’m calling out a troll who repeatedly abuses the goodwill of the members of this forum.
If you consider this user a troll, I consider you insensitive and toxic. If it was really about abusing good will you could block the user and/or forget about it, and/or complain to moderators, yet you insist on posting insulting messages.
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Re: Is it a good enough fleet for Darokyun too weak?

Postby Old School » Mon Dec 02, 2019 2:20 pm

OK.
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Re: Is it a good enough fleet for Darokyun too weak?

Postby M J Dougherty » Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:32 pm

As usual, your projected fleet is far too large. A pirate with that sort of force at his disposal would be able to cause enough of a nuisance to be worth smashing. If he doesn't use it, he can't support it because it's not generating revenue, but that many ships making attacks will cripple the local trade lanes and cause the big powers to do something. Probably that something would be along the lines of putting a handful of destroyers into the region whilst collecting intelligence, then sending a task force to take out a concentration or base.

This force is too big to stay under the response threshold, and too small to survive the response that it will generate.
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Re: Is it a good enough fleet for Darokyun too weak?

Postby Old School » Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:44 pm

M J Dougherty wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:32 pm
This force is too big to stay under the response threshold, and too small to survive the response that it will generate.
That raises an interesting point about Drinax campaigns. The players are supposed to build a fleet, and the campaign envisions those fleets potentially getting pretty large before the blockade and final conflict. Too large might be a problem.
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Re: Is it a good enough fleet for Darokyun too weak?

Postby PsiTraveller » Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:52 pm

That's what the Sindalian transponder codes are for, and the fees that go with it. Once a ship is transmitting the code that they paid the transport tax, they do not get attacked. It slowly turns the pirates into Customs agents. :)
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Re: Is it a good enough fleet for Darokyun too weak?

Postby PsiTraveller » Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:53 pm

And with a fleet that large the pirate should become a merchant prince and escort ships along the route and make money from the spec trade and freighter fees. As is the fleet is ripe for assassination efforts or an Imperial punitive fleet.
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Re: Is it a good enough fleet for Darokyun too weak?

Postby Old School » Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:09 pm

PsiTraveller wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:52 pm
That's what the Sindalian transponder codes are for, and the fees that go with it. Once a ship is transmitting the code that they paid the transport tax, they do not get attacked. It slowly turns the pirates into Customs agents. :)
Man, now you've got my Pirates rolling for Admin skill checks. Not what we signed up for!
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Re: Is it a good enough fleet for Darokyun too weak?

Postby Moppy » Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:27 pm

Business pirate climbs the cor-pirate ladder.
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Re: Is it a good enough fleet for Darokyun too weak?

Postby M J Dougherty » Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:16 am

This is what happened historically. Pirate fleets in the South China Sea got bought out to become offical navies. They'd go where the money was....
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Re: Is it a good enough fleet for Darokyun too weak?

Postby PsiTraveller » Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:45 am

It is what my group did in the Drinax campaign I ran. The group actually only attacked the pirates that did not follow their plan. The group "hired" or subcontracted Darokyn to enforce the Sindalian transponder idea, and attack Aslan along the route. Safe convoys for trade were arranged. Oleb got his cut of course and made more from trade and fuel than from piracy.

Now I had more of an Aslan threat element in my game, they were the evil horde ready to run amok. So other campaigns may be different.

And at no point did we have as many ships as JMISBEST, and not a single portfolio to be seen.
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Re: Is it a good enough fleet for Darokyun too weak?

Postby Condottiere » Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:20 am

Most smart Chinese regimes tend to assess the socio-economic political impact of military options, and sometimes just pay off irritants, usually the really organized and aggressive horsed nomads; that pirate deal was exceptional, and it was during a period of political and military weakness, especially naval.

Since the Mediterranean was Rome's primary transport nexus, piracy wasn't tolerated.

As regards to the Royal Navy, piracy suppression was their primary means of life fire exercises.

Apparently, the difference between Scandinavian traders and a Viking raiding party is how well armed and prepared the locals are.
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Re: Is it a good enough fleet for Darokyun too weak?

Postby Old School » Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:58 pm

Condottiere wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:20 am
the difference between Scandinavian traders and a Viking raiding party is how well armed and prepared the locals are.
That’s a great statement, right there.

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