Dragonmeet - First Preview of Victory at Sea 2.0

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Dragonmeet - First Preview of Victory at Sea 2.0

Postby msprange » Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:57 pm

Late breaking news - tomorrow, we will be previewing, for the very first time, Victory at Sea 2.0. The delectable Amy will be running participation games of the Battle of the River Plate!
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Re: Dragonmeet - First Preview of Victory at Sea 2.0

Postby rcbecker1 » Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:00 pm

Keep us updated with results and picks.
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Re: Dragonmeet - First Preview of Victory at Sea 2.0

Postby DM » Sat Dec 01, 2012 3:24 pm

And who is this delectable Amy of whom you speak? :)
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Re: Dragonmeet - First Preview of Victory at Sea 2.0

Postby StormforceX » Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:45 am

At last! VaS 2.0, the great god Neptune has heard my prayers!
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Re: Dragonmeet - First Preview of Victory at Sea 2.0

Postby msprange » Sun Dec 02, 2012 3:33 pm

StormforceX wrote:At last! VaS 2.0, the great god Neptune has heard my prayers!
Don't get too excited - being able to showcase the core rules and the Battle of the River Plate is a _long_ way from a printed rulebook!

However,things are certanly progressing.
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Re: Dragonmeet - First Preview of Victory at Sea 2.0

Postby DM » Sun Dec 02, 2012 6:53 pm

Pictures or it never happened :)
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Re: Dragonmeet - First Preview of Victory at Sea 2.0

Postby rcbecker1 » Mon Dec 03, 2012 1:21 am

Yeah picks or it never happened, I agree. :D
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Re: Dragonmeet - First Preview of Victory at Sea 2.0

Postby Renny » Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:16 am

I'll post some pictures later. I was lucky enough to play a game with Amy on Saturday. Seemed to play a lot quicker than I remembered. And the minis look nice.
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Re: Dragonmeet - First Preview of Victory at Sea 2.0

Postby rcbecker1 » Mon Dec 03, 2012 7:49 pm

In what ways are you refering to? Large gun fire, secondaries, armor, hit points?
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Re: Dragonmeet - First Preview of Victory at Sea 2.0

Postby Renny » Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:29 am

I'm not sure I can give you as technical an answer as you're looking for. I've played VaS 1 a couple of times only. I jumped into the Dragonmeet demo and was not aware that the game I was playing was v2.0. The ship sheets looked pretty similar to those I remember. All I can say is that the game played quicker than I remember. This may be because Amy knew the rules better than I did, or it may be because the rules are slightly quicker in play. One play aid Amy had which seemed useful was a summary sheet for how range affects the number of AD for each weapon system. This may be an unofficial MI aid or it may be a chart from the new book. Either way, we played out the engagement in well under thirty minutes. I will try and get those promised pictures posted later today.
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Re: Dragonmeet - First Preview of Victory at Sea 2.0

Postby Renny » Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:45 am

Ok, some pictures. Sorry they're large but haven't time to resize yet.

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Demo in progress

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The forces

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The ship sheet

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Graf Spee

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Initial setup for the Brits

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New resin ships on the trade stand
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Re: Dragonmeet - First Preview of Victory at Sea 2.0

Postby DM » Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:26 am

Nice pics. One point though, that Bismarck isn't Bismarck. Its Graf Spee :)
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Re: Dragonmeet - First Preview of Victory at Sea 2.0

Postby Renny » Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:38 pm

For some reason I had Bismarck on the brain. Obviously it's Graf Spee as the scenario was Battle Of The River Plate :oops:
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Re: Dragonmeet - First Preview of Victory at Sea 2.0

Postby rcbecker1 » Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:11 pm

Time related to the battle. This is a small battle, with some good dice rolling it could be over quite quickly. But with defensive players keeping at range and posible bad die rolls as such this will quickly slow down a game also.
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Re: Dragonmeet - First Preview of Victory at Sea 2.0

Postby AdmiralGrafSpee » Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:36 pm

Cool. Got a shot of the Graf Spee's stats?
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Re: Dragonmeet - First Preview of Victory at Sea 2.0

Postby rcbecker1 » Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:57 am

AdmiralGrafSpee wrote:Cool. Got a shot of the Graf Spee's stats?
Cool yes. Unless allowed I cant release that secret info until approved, so Matt we will leave this up to you.
Since the British are exposed can the Graf Spee's stats be exposed.
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Re: Dragonmeet - First Preview of Victory at Sea 2.0

Postby Ecclesiastes » Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:18 am

Noticed that the crew stat has been removed. A good thing in my opinion. I already play my games without keeping track of crew losses. It speeds up things.

Also the integration of the DD adjustments into the statline seems to be an improvement.

Really hope to see some previews of the new rules soon. Since the game seems to be playable just fine with the new stats shown on the picture, would it be possible to post the stats of each ship in the boxed sets when they come out?
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Re: Dragonmeet - First Preview of Victory at Sea 2.0

Postby rcbecker1 » Sun Sep 15, 2013 3:13 am

If the things discussed happens there will either be ship cards or the info will be downloadable after purchase of the game.
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Re: Dragonmeet - First Preview of Victory at Sea 2.0

Postby AdmiralGrafSpee » Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:18 pm

I'd happily buy PDFs with ship reference cards for playing, much like what has been done for ACTA-SF.

Hey Matt, any chance we can see the stats for Graf Spee?

Also, I noticed that there are no "point values" listed on the British ships. I assume it wasn't necessary as this is a historical scenario, but are you still going to do point values for all the ships? I hope you will, as that was one problem our group had with VAS 1.0.
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Re: Dragonmeet - First Preview of Victory at Sea 2.0

Postby msprange » Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:00 am

We will indeed have points values on ships, and another preview will be done in the future!
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