Graf Zeppelin Class In OOB

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Graf Zeppelin Class In OOB

Postby Hunter » Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:12 pm

Hi there all, just a quick question and I appologise for creating a new thread for it if that is the wrong thing to do.

In the Kriegsmarine list (p.58) is has the Graf Zeppelin listed as a Battle choice whereas in the VaS book it is a Raid choice and yet this isn't mentioned at the top of the same OOB page where Errata from VaS is covered.

I have read DMs unoffical errata document and it is not convered in there either so I was wondering if anyone else had noticed this and/or knows what the resolution is?

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Postby Soulmage » Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:08 pm

Dunno. In the absence of more information my default approach would be to assume that the fleet lists in OOB are the correct ones.
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Postby Bostich » Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:31 pm

Raid does seem low for a Carrier and with the new aircraft rules I'd assume OOB is correct.
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Postby Pavlov Grenadier » Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:15 pm

Hi Hunter! There are several cases where they dont mention the change at the top of the Fleet list but then change it below in the PL sections.

Most of the carriers went up a level (not all but most).

I too have been assuming where they are listed in the OOB breakdown is correct and have changed thier PL accordingly.

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Postby Soulmage » Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:56 pm

Bostich wrote:Raid does seem low for a Carrier and with the new aircraft rules I'd assume OOB is correct.
Except for the US which has a slew of carriers at Raid level!
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Postby Bostich » Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:54 am

and 4 at Skirmish..
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Postby MektonZero » Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:41 am

Bostich wrote:and 4 at Skirmish..
Casablanca class. You buy 3 Hellcats for a Skirmish point and get a free escort carrier and 2 Avengers to go with it. That's one hell of a manufacturer's rebate!

It should probably be a Raid level pick.
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Postby Hunter » Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:54 am

Which are certainly a few of the reasons why I thought that Battle was high for a carrier with 7 flights. Even with a torpedo belt.

Anyone else got an opinion? DM?

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Postby DM » Sun Jan 06, 2008 9:00 am

Not from me. As many readers here know I dislike the PL system with a vengeance :D (although i quite understand why its there - I just don't like points systems in games in general).

In the main I left the establishment of PLs to the rest of the developers.
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Postby captnmartin » Sun Jun 19, 2011 4:08 pm

Looking at comparable carriers, I would put the Graf at a Raid choice, a game master made that decision recently and I agree with it.
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Postby rcbecker1 » Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:38 pm

What you say works for me as lonmg as both players agree. Done deal.
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