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latest website update, Bismarck repaint

Postby Agis » Sun Nov 05, 2006 3:40 pm

Hi again,

after seeing the fantastic 3D renderings on the website of Thomas Schmidt (see: http://www.3dhistory.de/index-frameset_e.htm)
I decided to gave my GHQ 1/2400 model a bit of a re-paint.

Old version:
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New version - The Bismarck as seen on 5th May 1941:
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Please note: All markings used, such as the swastikas, are displayed ONLY for historical accuracy and should not be considered as an attempt to glorify war or Nazism.
The symbols do not signify or represent my own personal political opinion.


I am very pleased with the result. I also used for the 1st time a decal on the ship.
IIRC a 1/300 aircraft marking. I had to cut it to the fitting shape.
cheers and keep on gaming, Agis
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Postby Wulf Corbett » Sun Nov 05, 2006 3:58 pm

Very nice indeed. I'm not looking forward to attempting the Swastkas on 1/3000 ships :-(

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Postby Agis » Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:04 pm

Wulf Corbett wrote:Very nice indeed. I'm not looking forward to attempting the Swastkas on 1/3000 ships :-(

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as long as you use a decal as I did, you have no trouble Wulf...
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Postby Mr Evil » Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:04 pm

excelent job
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Postby Reaverman » Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:05 pm

Very nice :)

Though not enough waves IMHO :twisted:
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Postby Agis » Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:12 pm

Reaverman wrote:Very nice :)

Though not enough waves IMHO :twisted:
I saw this coming... :D

But the cunning German Captains preferred the calmer Seas!
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Postby Lord David the Denied » Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:13 pm

Nice work indeed. Hat's off to you sir.
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Postby Jellicoe » Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:17 pm

Reaverman wrote:Very nice :)

Though not enough waves IMHO :twisted:
Would not go to sea with that paintwork so its on trials in the Baltic :D .
Very nice.
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Postby Chernobyl » Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:20 pm

very nice artwork both on the 3D model and on the mineature. Great stuff!

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Postby Wulf Corbett » Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:22 pm

Agis wrote:as long as you use a decal as I did, you have no trouble Wulf...
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Yes, but that's not a 1/3000 Bismarck, is it?

However, I have some 1/700 decals... not actually swastikas, but the right colours (just politically corrected).

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Postby Reaverman » Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:46 pm

Wulf Corbett wrote:
Agis wrote:as long as you use a decal as I did, you have no trouble Wulf...
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Yes, but that's not a 1/3000 Bismarck, is it?

However, I have some 1/700 decals... not actually swastikas, but the right colours (just politically corrected).

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Am I right in thinking, you wont but authentic insignia on ships, becuase of Political Correctness?
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Postby Agis » Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:55 pm

Wulf Corbett wrote:
Agis wrote:as long as you use a decal as I did, you have no trouble Wulf...
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Yes, but that's not a 1/3000 Bismarck, is it?
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Nope - it is 1/2400 GHQ.
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Postby Wulf Corbett » Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:55 pm

Reaverman wrote:Am I right in thinking, you wont but authentic insignia on ships, becuase of Political Correctness?
Neither I nor the UK Guv'm't give a damn, really, but there's no way I could PAINT anything that small with any accuracy, and as various European governments DO (understandably, I guess) care, most decals available don't have actual Swastikas anymore. The ones I have have plain crosses, but at this size, it works (I may experiment with a teeny addition in paint).

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Postby Agis » Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:58 pm

Reaverman wrote:
Wulf Corbett wrote:
Agis wrote:as long as you use a decal as I did, you have no trouble Wulf...
:wink:
Yes, but that's not a 1/3000 Bismarck, is it?
However, I have some 1/700 decals... not actually swastikas, but the right colours (just politically corrected).
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Am I right in thinking, you wont but authentic insignia on ships, becuase of Political Correctness?
It is of concern here in Germany. It is forbiden by a law to show Nazi symbols and rightly so. We do have a problem (as nearly every country in the world) with Neo-Nazism here and therefore I am oversensible.
Anyway, after seeing the renderings I decided to put a mirror swatiska on the ship. It is on a historic model, so it is in a "grey" area.
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Postby Reaverman » Sun Nov 05, 2006 5:04 pm

Wulf Corbett wrote:
Reaverman wrote:Am I right in thinking, you wont but authentic insignia on ships, becuase of Political Correctness?
Neither I nor the UK Guv'm't give a damn, really, but there's no way I could PAINT anything that small with any accuracy, and as various European governments DO (understandably, I guess) care, most decals available don't have actual Swastikas anymore. The ones I have have plain crosses, but at this size, it works (I may experiment with a teeny addition in paint).

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Postby noobdelux » Sun Nov 05, 2006 5:05 pm

whoa!! god damn nice..
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Postby oggie x » Sun Nov 05, 2006 5:11 pm

Another great mini Agis. Very well done especially on the swastikas. I take it that the reason these are 45 degrees off is for the potitical correctness thing. On an interesting note, though these were painted over when the ship went into the Atlantic they are visible on the wreck! Seawater has eroded the paint that covered them.

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Postby DM » Mon Nov 06, 2006 3:10 pm

as long as you use a decal as I did, you have no trouble Wulf...
I used a Rotring mapping pen to do my swastikas on my 1/3000 models. Certainly a lot easier than a paintbrush!
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Postby Chernobyl » Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:04 pm

yeah, I've found that pens and some markers are better than brushes, for my skill level, in detailing some work.
And for those in Germany, you might be able to just paint the red circle and the red banner, and leave the swastica off. Or, what about just the "cross" with out the "bent" portions.

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Postby Samvail1 » Tue Nov 21, 2006 8:15 am

Hi Agis

As a long time admirer of your work, I would love to see a breakdown of how you paint your ships. Colours you use, step-by-step photos of each stage. That would be incredibly useful and, I suspect, very inspirational.

Any chance?

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