HMS ARK ROYAL

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HMS ARK ROYAL

Postby Mr Evil » Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:58 pm

ok hms ark royal is my fave ship


any body know what ships were in its fleet along side it for historical acuracy ?
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Postby oggie x » Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:28 pm

Would really depend on the period.

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Postby DM » Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:42 pm

Ark Royal spent much of her combat career (and indeed ended it) with Force H under Somerville, operating from Gibraltar. Other ships that formed part of Force H included Sheffield, Renown, Hood, Valiant and Resolution.
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Postby captainsmirk » Wed Nov 01, 2006 4:58 pm

Revenge? Dreadnought? San Martin?

All depends on which Ark Royal you mean. The first one was the flagship of the English fleet which engaged the Spanish Armada (hence the San Martin)...

There have been about five now...

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Postby Greg Smith » Wed Nov 01, 2006 5:46 pm

Since this is the VaS forum, he probably means the WWII one. The one that launched Swordfish bombers against the Bismark that actually dropped their torpedoes on the Sheffield. :oops:
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Postby Reaverman » Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:37 pm

Greg Smith wrote:Since this is the VaS forum, he probably means the WWII one. The one that launched Swordfish bombers against the Bismark that actually dropped their torpedoes on the Sheffield. :oops:
And suprisingly all those Torps missed :D
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Postby Lord David the Denied » Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:55 pm

Those Swordfish pilots must have been flying with hangovers... :P
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Postby DM » Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:14 pm

No, they were flying with magnetically fused torpedoes. The fuses (fortunately) malfunctioned and detonated the warhreads on contact with the sea surface. If they hadn't it is likely that "Shiny Sheff" would have been sunk outright (similar weapons, when they worked properly, caused massive damage to the Italian battleships at Taranto, since they sue a different damage mechanism to the conventional "contact" weapons of the day). The failed attack on Sheff highlighted the deficiencies in the fuse and so the second strike that hit Bismarck was made with conventional contact fuses.
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Postby Mr Evil » Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:19 pm

DM wrote:No, they were flying with magnetically fused torpedoes. The fuses (fortunately) malfunctioned and detonated the warhreads on contact with the sea surface. If they hadn't it is likely that "Shiny Sheff" would have been sunk outright (similar weapons, when they worked properly, caused massive damage to the Italian battleships at Taranto, since they sue a different damage mechanism to the conventional "contact" weapons of the day). The failed attack on Sheff highlighted the deficiencies in the fuse and so the second strike that hit Bismarck was made with conventional contact fuses.
ie read that of wikipedia :D

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Postby DM » Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:23 pm

LOL, sometimes Wiki does get it right. But I'd never rely on it. Some of the stuff on the Falklands is quite comical, and I've been in a running debate with some bloke from Thailand because he doesn't like my description of the battle of Koh Chang and keeps mucking about with it.

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Postby knuckles » Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:51 am

I tried to swap my wife once. I thought it was a fair trade but in the end the owner of the Aston Martin renegged, guess I wil have to save up and buy one now :cry:
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Postby Lord David the Denied » Thu Nov 02, 2006 10:30 am

Your mistake was asking for such a high price. Historically, wives could be swapped for a pair of shoes with a high probabilty of success. Of course, the former husband might have cause to regret the act when the shoes being to wear. Swearing was a common response to this...

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