What minis are you going to use?

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What minis are you going to use?

Postby oggie x » Thu Oct 19, 2006 7:25 pm

I thought I would start this as in several of the other topics this is being discussed and I thought it may be better to have it all in one place (easy to find for people wanting recomendations.

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Postby Burger » Thu Oct 19, 2006 7:52 pm

Someone please recommend some pre-painted ones for me :D
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Postby BuShips » Thu Oct 19, 2006 8:02 pm

Burger wrote:Someone please recommend some pre-painted ones for me :D
Well, you could always get a bunch of metal ships and a case of Haze Grey spray paints. Regardless of nationality, you can never go too far wrong with grey! :lol:
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Postby Sgt. Brassones » Thu Oct 19, 2006 8:21 pm

My FLGS stocks the full range of GHQ so I'll be using those.
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Postby E Nicely » Thu Oct 19, 2006 8:42 pm

Burger wrote:Someone please recommend some pre-painted ones for me :D
I heard a rumor that there will be a collectible WWII naval game out soon. Collectible, but no doubt painted. Might be a good source for ships. It would suck to have to buy 30 packs just to pull a Yamato or Bismarck though.

Myself, 1:2400 GHQ minis. Very detailed, they put out great naval minis.
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Postby Wulf Corbett » Thu Oct 19, 2006 8:56 pm

1/3000, a mix of Davco & Navwar. he Navwar ones LOOK better detailed until you realise they are moulded with a vertical split, resulting in a mould mark across the top of the turrets!

As for colours, I've been collecting some modelling guides which appear to prove that virtually no ships were just one shade of grey! Some were pink...

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Postby E Nicely » Thu Oct 19, 2006 9:18 pm

^I know there's a company that makes hull grey paints for the Japanese that are specific to each shipyard. Then there's those camo patterns too.
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Postby oggie x » Thu Oct 19, 2006 9:21 pm

I will be using Figurehead 1/6000 ships. Get all of a class in a single pack, cheap due to size but detail still good, come with sea effect bases and easy to paint. Yes they do have a vertical mould line but with careful work easy enough to remove.

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Postby Wulf Corbett » Thu Oct 19, 2006 9:37 pm

Lowly Uhlan wrote:^I know there's a company that makes hull grey paints for the Japanese that are specific to each shipyard. Then there's those camo patterns too.
And at 1/3000 some of those patterns are eyestraining... you thought the Narn were bad!

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Postby E Nicely » Thu Oct 19, 2006 9:42 pm

Hey the Japanese rarely used camo (so I have some painted) . But there's a reason I haven't started painting my US ships. :wink:
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Postby Burger » Thu Oct 19, 2006 9:49 pm

Surely camo for ships, is blue? :P
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Postby Wulf Corbett » Thu Oct 19, 2006 9:52 pm

Burger wrote:Surely camo for ships, is blue? :P
But what SHADE of blue? The USN had about a dozen...

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Postby Burger » Thu Oct 19, 2006 9:53 pm

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Burger wrote:Surely camo for ships, is blue? :P
But what SHADE of blue? The USN had about a dozen...
Ocean Blue, or Deep Sea Blue I would guess!
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Postby Reaverman » Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:01 pm

Camo was more used to break up the outline, rather than hide the ship
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Postby Wulf Corbett » Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:17 pm

Reaverman wrote:Camo was more used to break up the outline, rather than hide the ship
Well, that was generally the end result, but the experimentation that went into the testing produced some alarming results... General Mountbatton apparently had his destroyer squadron painted a rather deep pink!

The Northern Approaches patterns, however, were all about making ships look like icebergs. Which looks odd when one of them ends up bombarding the Normandy beaches...

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Postby BuShips » Fri Oct 20, 2006 12:11 am

I was being extremely generic with my suggestion of a case of grey paint. Perhaps I should have used an emoticon :roll: . Yes, there were indeed Japanese paints that differed between bases, and not only were there many shades of grey with the USN, weathering effected the finish as well. Blues were used as well, but the water color would change dramatically based on the weather over the sea and the water's depth. Just look at different photos of the oceans and you'll see greys and greens and turquoises and brilliant blues. Water probably has more changes in color than anything I can think of. My favorite camo though for warships is the various dazzle patterns applied to break up speed and course of a target ship.
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Postby Eisho » Fri Oct 20, 2006 3:34 am

GHQ because I already have several miniatures (though haven't used them for a long time). I am interested though in the 1:6000 scale minis mentioned above. I wasn't aware of their existence. For large-scale actions in the Pacific though, this could be a better way for me to go.

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Postby Tibour » Fri Oct 20, 2006 3:38 am

IF Mongoose isn't planning on making minis would it be OK to post links to others that do??????????????

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Postby mbtanker » Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:23 am

Avalon Hill has a new collectible naval mini game coming out. That may prove a good source of ships. Hopefully it will be better than their current land mini game where the scale is all off and quality ranges from good to poor. http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=ah/aam/waratsea

As others have mentioned, for regular minis GHQ is certainly the best in 1/2400 scale. That seems a good scale for this game based on the preview. http://www.ghqmodels.com/ Others are cheaper but do not look nearly as good.

For aircraft my favorites are C.A.P. Aero 1/1200 Scale Aircraft. These are roughly a half inch across for a fighter. One or two on a stand would be great for VaS. They are big enough that you can tell what they are but still seem to fit with 1/2400 scale or even 1/6000 because it sort of looks like you are looking down on the ships from the planes.

The Figurehead 1/6000 ships are very good as well. They are quite small but they give you a lot of ships for your money and are easy to paint. Capital ships are maybe two inches long and have a separate base. Smaller ships are cast with their base and are 1 1/2 inches or so. Here is one resource http://www.ss-sms.com/FHSCAPcat3.html.

VaS will also make a great companion to Avalanche Press' 'WW2 at Sea' series of games. That series has a great operational game but a poor tactical game. Playing it on the operational level with VaS for the tactical portion may be as good as it gets for fast playing naval action. It also comes with very nice large ship counters (1 1/2" long I think) that could be used instead of miniatures. Although I suspect Mongoose's counters will be more attractive. http://www.avalanchepress.com
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Postby BuShips » Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:31 am

mbtanker wrote:Although I suspect Mongoose's counters will be more attactive. http://www.avalanchepress.com
Attactive? Ah, that's when a model is "tactically attractive" then. Good. Sorry, I'm not being mean. It's just my wry/dry humor that does get me in trouble some times :roll: :wink: .
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