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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:50 am
by Jellicoe
Wulf Corbett wrote: I was thinking more of the elaborate multi-level bridge structures of the older battleships & battlecruisers...

Wulf
Like so

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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:58 am
by Wulf Corbett
Jellicoe wrote:Like so
Quite so. Kago or Fuso? I mean, I like the look of them, but I can't tell one from another :wink:

Wulf

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:04 am
by Jellicoe
Wulf Corbett wrote: Quite so. Kago or Fuso? I mean, I like the look of them, but I can't tell one from another :wink:

Wulf
Its not really something normal people should be able to do or aspire to (telling on apart from another). Fuso 1933.

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:11 am
by E Nicely
Wulf Corbett wrote:
Lowly Uhlan wrote:You mean those pagodas they have on deck?
I was thinking more of the elaborate multi-level bridge structures of the older battleships & battlecruisers...

Wulf
Someone told me the nickname for the Nagato BBs was "The Pagoda" due to that big bridge tower.

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:13 pm
by BuShips
lastbesthope wrote:
BuShips wrote:
Alaaaaarrrrmmm!!!! <--- Das Boot (good flick!) :P
Have you seen the 5 hour mini series, a bit longer than the generally released version of the film.

LBH
I've been watching my Director's cut, which is basically the west german mini series (no West Germany now though- just Germany) :wink: . Five hours long, with complete re-editing and new sound effects created thoughout. It's a masterpiece. 8)

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:19 pm
by Kristovich
Okay so it's Kriegsmarine then :?

That's what you get for studying German for four years.

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:55 pm
by Chernobyl
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Now thats a beautiful ship... :lol:

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you can see the shells in this picture!

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:23 pm
by lastbesthope
BuShips wrote:
I've been watching my Director's cut, which is basically the west german mini series (no West Germany now though- just Germany) :wink: . Five hours long, with complete re-editing and new sound effects created thoughout. It's a masterpiece. 8)
NEED to get me a copy of that one of these days.

LBH

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:26 pm
by BuShips
<wry> Nah Chernobyl, the second photo shows the new intercept system where they fire a projectile straight at an incoming round. The photo shows the Mighty Mo firing a perfectly-aimed intercept at six incoming 16" projectiles. :lol: In the next improved version they just decided to catch the enemy rounds in the barrels, turn them around and send them back. Much more efficient and saves money, too. Those bullets are expensive, you know... :lol: </wry>

Good pics, btw. As a point of trivia, back in the late 70's (yeah, I'm old) I visited the mothballed Mighty Mo and had a photo taken of me sitting on the center barrel of A turret, ala Slim Pickens in Dr. Strangelove, heh. I didn't even get in trouble, as it was rather high off the deck (I had to shimmy up the barrel from behind). I think it was like 10 feet off of the deck, even though the barrels were only angled upward a bit. :D

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:41 pm
by Chernobyl
found this image:
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I've also visitied the MIghty Mo, while my ship was stationed at Bremerton. It and the Wisconsin (I think ) were tied up side by side, and you could go up and tour a portion of the starboard side, the surrender deck, and the foreward main deck around turret 1 and 2. There was very limited interior access but some, I think it was the captain's in-port cabin. I'll see if I can dig up some photos...!

Chern

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:57 pm
by oggie x
That shells in flight picture is great, I feel sorry for the poor blokes on the recieving end.

Wulf, you are right it is a Fuso Class either the Yashimaro or Fuso (apologies fo the mispelling of the former).

oggie

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:38 pm
by BuShips
Chernobyl wrote:I've also visitied the MIghty Mo, while my ship was stationed at Bremerton. It and the Wisconsin (I think ) were tied up side by side, and you could go up and tour a portion of the starboard side, the surrender deck, and the foreward main deck around turret 1 and 2. There was very limited interior access but some, I think it was the captain's in-port cabin. I'll see if I can dig up some photos...!

Chern
The other ship was the New Jersey. It was next to the Essex-class Oriskany when I was there, circa 1976-78 (I'm just not sure of the year). Here is a photo I found on the net, showing the Missouri in 1976. Back in 1954, all four ships were active, and are seen in this photo of BATDIV2 (Battleship Division 2 for those here that aren't naval geeks, lol). Certainly an impressive photo of naval might.

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Note: as these are official US Navy photos, they are within the public domain so no copyright infringement should be claimed by anyone. So there :wink: .

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:40 pm
by Chernobyl
yep, that sure looks like bremerton's boneyard...and a great picture of the whole class. probably the only time it ever happened.

Chern

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:54 pm
by BuShips
Chernobyl wrote:yep, that sure looks like bremerton's boneyard...and a great picture of the whole class. probably the only time it ever happened.

Chern
1954 was a good year, heh. Yes, I'm sure it didn't last long.

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:58 pm
by DM
probably about 365 days, give or take.... :D

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:09 pm
by BuShips
DM wrote:probably about 365 days, give or take.... :D
touche' :P

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:49 pm
by DM
sorry, couldn't resist :) (its been one of those days!)

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:54 pm
by Aramanthus
Nice drawing of the Fuso. I thought that was from the Yamoshiro class Battleship. Those are some beautiful shots of the Iowas! Of course I just love tose beauty shots of the classic warships!

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:27 pm
by night owl
Without a carrier, the Germans could have a hard time of it. A 'sunk without ever firing a shot' hard time.

Maybe land based air cover?

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 7:32 am
by admiral_tee
Kriegsmarine all the way..

And the discussion about "beautiful" BB's - to me that has to go to the Scharnhorst BB's..

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The Scharn': Ahh, look at the fine lines of the ship. :)
You haven't classed her as a BC have you? Thats a common misinterpretation, and not supported by German literature, mainly incorrectly supported due to her 11" guns being smaller than average.
A BC, by definition, is a ship with the armour of a cruiser and the guns of a battleship. They were for anti cruiser/raider duties. And not meant for 'main gun line' duties.
Scharnhorst and Gneisenau (say the 'G' :wink: ) were armoured like BB's instead..
Anyway, its a sore point for Naval Historians!

tee out