ADVENTURES IN INNER SEA'S, USING LEGEND?

Prime_Evil · **Joined:** Thu Oct 13, 2005 3:41 am **Posts:** 836

warlock1971 wrote:

Da Boss wrote:

Dans work is great

in case it of use / interest - I am working on a D100 variant - taking inspiration from many elements of Legend(*) - some of which may well be useful for you / provide a few different options.

(*) I have simplified combat quite a bit but also given a few different options, same with magic.

http://www.mediafire.com/view/?z0xlycuijzu3u8d

Great work with Arradicia by the way.

Yes...there are some good ideas in there

Dan True · **Posted:** Mon Oct 22, 2012 7:33 am

TheFactotum wrote:

Mr. Dan True
I'm interested in how you converted the dnd races for eberron. Since I'm running galorion I have quite a variety of races to choose from and am wondering how I should convert them, if at all. Open question for everyone really.

For example. the Kitsune race has the following stats
Standard Racial Traits

Ability Score Racial Traits: Kitsune are agile and companionable, but tend to be physically weak. They gain +2 Dexterity, +2 Charisma, and –2 Strength.

Size: Kitsune are Medium creatures and thus have no bonuses or penalties due to their size.
Type: Kitsune are humanoids with the kitsune and shapechanger subtypes.
Base Speed: Kitsune have a base speed of 30 feet.

Languages: Kitsune begin play speaking Common and Sylvan. Kitsune with high Intelligence scores can choose from the following: any human language, Aklo, Celestial, Elven, Gnome, and Tengu. See the Linguistics skill page for more information about these languages.

Feat and Skill Racial Traits
Agile (Ex) Kitsune receive a +2 racial bonus on Acrobatics checks.

Magical Racial Traits
Change Shape (Su) A kitsune can assume the appearance of a specific single human form of the same sex. The kitsune always takes this specific form when she uses this ability. A kitsune in human form cannot use her bite attack, but gains a +10 racial bonus on Disguise checks made to appear human. Changing shape is a standard action. This ability otherwise functions as alter self, except that the kitsune does not adjust her ability scores.

Kitsune Magic (Ex/Sp): Kitsune add +1 to the DC of any saving throws against enchantment spells that they cast. Kitsune with a Charisma score of 11 or higher gain the following spell-like ability: 3/day—dancing lights.

Offense Racial Traits
Natural Weapons (Ex) In her natural form, a kitsune has a bite attack that deals 1d4 points of damage.

Senses Racial Traits

Low-Light Vision: Kitsune can see twice as far as humans in conditions of dim light.

What would be an effective way of converting the kitsune race?

I usually took the approach of starting with human stats, then applying the different bonuses. I.e. They have superior dex and cha, so dex and cha are made 2d6+6 instead of 3d6, perhaps higher. Strength is 3d6-3 or keep it standard (Beware of the negatives, as poor stats can kill you much faster in Legend than in d&d)...
Siz is the same.
Base speed is the same.

Drop bonus languages - they're only there in d&d because almost no one would learn languages anyway because of all the language-magic.

The traits are the real hard nut to crack, because that's where the flavour is and the potential for a real sucky or op race. Some (like the bite) can be taken from the monster book. The magic and change shape will require some work to work well..

- Dan

Old timer · **Posted:** Mon Oct 22, 2012 8:31 am

Just a quick observation, no race in legend rolls attributes as x dice minus a number, as 3d6-3 could lead to 0 strength, i would suggest if the above race is not strong, roll 2d6+3 instead (same maximum of 15, average of 10)

Dan True · **Posted:** Mon Oct 22, 2012 9:19 am

Old timer wrote:

Just a quick observation, no race in legend rolls attributes as x dice minus a number, as 3d6-3 could lead to 0 strength, i would suggest if the above race is not strong, roll 2d6+3 instead (same maximum of 15, average of 10)

One of the reasons to beware of negatives. Although the rules specifically says to reroll any result below 6, so a str of 0 is not happening. But 2d6 might be better yes (2d6+3 evens out to 10, just as 3d6, so it's no penalty).

Also remember this will mean most Kitsune will have a negative dmg mod. which means their bite attack will in reality do 1d4-1d2...

- Dan

Old timer · **Posted:** Mon Oct 22, 2012 9:29 am

Actually, if the above race is human sized, they will, on averages, not get a damage bonus but nor will it be a negative, as human sized is 2d6+6, an average of 13, and with an average strength of 10, that is a total of 23 on the damage bonus chart and 21 to 25 is no damage bonus.

Gods, i am sounding like a rules lawyer

Dan True · **Posted:** Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:08 am

Old timer wrote:

Actually, if the above race is human sized, they will, on averages, not get a damage bonus but nor will it be a negative, as human sized is 2d6+6, an average of 13, and with an average strength of 10, that is a total of 23 on the damage bonus chart and 21 to 25 is no damage bonus.

Gods, i am sounding like a rules lawyer

Well, my warning was if their str was assinged as 2d6, which will average 7. 7+13 = 20 = -1d2

- Dan

Da Boss · **Posted:** Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:34 am

Prime_Evil wrote: