Arms & Equipment new edition?

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Arms & Equipment new edition?

Postby Raf Blutaxt » Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:04 pm

I just saw that the Arms & Equipment book has been moved to the OOP sale. Does this mean that there will be a new edition of this book or that this was it for A & E in MRQ II?
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Postby MongooseMatt » Tue Jan 11, 2011 11:14 am

No plans for a new edition of A&E at this time.
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Postby Jujitsudave » Tue Jan 11, 2011 11:43 am

It's a shame that it's out of print. I've found it to be highly useful for my game. I'm sure it would be for others as well.
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Postby Dan True » Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:48 pm

Is it because of low sales or some down priority of RQ2 ? Seems weird to have a system without the book with extra equipment being on the market.

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Postby ThatGuy » Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:37 pm

I have to say, although this book was the most editorially challenged, the ideas, gear and mechanics put forth in the book are exceptional. I constantly find myself going to it. It did a good job of offering non-overpowering weapon and armor alternatives that did not involve magic.

If you don't have this book I highly recommend it.

I assume the PDF will remain available, yes?
Let's say, just for argument's sake, you're right...
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Postby Cassius » Wed Jan 12, 2011 1:32 pm

msprange wrote:No plans for a new edition of A&E at this time.
Damnit

I was waiting for a 2nd print run of this so I could get a copy with the errata included
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Postby sdavies2720 » Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:01 pm

Cassius wrote:
msprange wrote:No plans for a new edition of A&E at this time.
Damnit

I was waiting for a 2nd print run of this so I could get a copy with the errata included
Yes, that's the shame of this book: poorly edited/proofed core material detracts from its value, so fewer people buy it, so no second printing to fix the (easy-to-fix) problems.

And every time this comes up I get steamed again that I bought it sight unseen based on the quality of the core book. I get mad even though there is a lot of good material there.

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Postby Troll66 » Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:19 pm

Is it really that bad - if so thats awful of Mongoose to treat their new and shiny RQII in such a tardy manner...but I have sadly experienced some very fluctuating quality issues from Mongoose over the past few years
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Postby Exubae » Fri Jan 14, 2011 7:23 pm

Is it really that bad
No, and what is incorrect is amended in the errata.
The only problem with the book is its scope is a bit limited.
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Postby sdavies2720 » Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:42 pm

Exubae wrote:
Is it really that bad
No, and what is incorrect is amended in the errata.
The only problem with the book is its scope is a bit limited.
Well, for me it was. Look through the errata and decide for yourself. I bought it for the weapon and armor tables, the other rules were secondary benefits.

I agree that the errata corrected what was wrong, but it's not just a wrong number here or there -- you basically need to paste over the equipment tables that are there. At that rate, if I'd known, I would have just waited for the errata and printed that to give to new players.

It's water under the bridge: A&E and Necromancy were rocky, but everything since has been solid. FWIW, I just got my Abiding Book today -- having uneasily waived my personal 'no preorders' Mongoose policy so that I could get the limited edition. It looks good.

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Postby hanszurcher » Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:10 pm

Troll66 wrote:Is it really that bad
Yes. I think eight pages of rewrite/errata is pretty bad. A Mongoose staff member has been fired over the issue.

That said, if I had not already purchased the book, the current $14.99 price tag would be tempting. Plenty of useful stuff...but I hate having to reference two different documents (A&E itself and the errata) to make use of the one I purchased. I am poorly organized as is.

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Postby sdavies2720 » Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:24 pm

hanszurcher wrote:That said, if I had not already purchased the book, the current $14.99 price tag would be tempting. Plenty of useful stuff...but I hate having to reference two different documents (A&E itself and the errata) to make use of the one I purchased. I am poorly organized as is.
-Hans
Yes! What I did, and it's a little bit of work but not too bad, was to fiddle-print the errata so it's the same size as the original. I then bought a stick of repositional glue (basically the same stuff as on post-it notes, but comes in the form of a glue stick). I then pasted the errata over the tables in the book.

In some cases where the errata is too long, you have to attach the errata sheet at one end so you can lift it to look at covered text.

It's not elegant and frustrates me, but it alleviates the two documents problem (which doesn't work for me either).

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Postby hanszurcher » Sun Jan 16, 2011 8:00 pm

sdavies2720 wrote:... I then pasted the errata over the tables in the book. ...
That is a great idea. I'm normally such a anal-retentive bibliophile that tampering with the text block like that just did not occur to me. Most of my AD&D modules from 30 years age still look like the day I bought them. I'll give the repositional glue a try, hopefully I won't break out in a cold sweat.:)

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Postby ledpup » Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:14 am

Anyone know if the errata was ever merged into the PDF doc on RPG drive thru?
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Postby DreadDomain » Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:44 am

ledpup wrote:Anyone know if the errata was ever merged into the PDF doc on RPG drive thru?
I'd like to know as well. My first choice would be to wait for a revised A&E printed book but since Matt said it wasn't in the plans, I'd settle for a revised PDF.

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