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TrippyHippy wrote:What I don't really like in MRQ is the table-referencing, convoluted combat system.
I think this view of these skills doesn't take into account the way PCs are supposed to be developed in RQ. There is a whole lot of players out their who wont play a character that doesn't have characteristics far above the average. There is some logic to this, after all those who do, do because they can. Nevertheless, the problems brought up here and elsewhere regarding Persistence and Resilience when used as saving throws is only and issue for characters with extremely high skills and corresponding characteristics. Characters with a sufficiently high governing characteristic for these skills can be formidable when GMs allow the rules to get in their way as opposed to using them as a tool.
I like the chosen terms Persistence and Resilience. I think the terms "toughness" and "willpower" from the recent post imply more than these skills are supposed to represent. For instance it is toughness that allows a person to travel long distances and carry heavier loads but resilience is not used for this at all in MRQ. Instead, Athletics governs these abilities. Willpower implies so much more than being able to focus and concentrate and stick to something forgoing minor discomforts. Anyone who thinks willpower is limited to these skills is deluded. But persistence does imply this quite nicely. Willpower implies among other things a sense of purpose and this must be roleplayed out.
Because persistence and resilience can not rise higher than their governing characteristic they provide real limits. Certain magical efforts or similar actions that require something other than physical endurance, or when determining the character's ability to heal or withstand harsh elements. I rarely use these skills as saving throws. For instance I never roll against resilience to see if a wound instantly kills a character. For this kind of saving throw I allow players to use hero points. I personally require more than just 1 or 2 heropoints to save a character from some certain death or devastating injury.