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Re: Kickstarter - 2nd Stretch Goal Passed - Dark Judges Next

Postby Cyporiean » Sun Sep 16, 2012 5:20 pm

cfirpi wrote:hmm the seeing the stretch goals seem to be getting to ambitious to quick.
+1000 for walter
+3000 for zombie
+4000 for Death and co.

Don't get me wrong we've made the marks in only 3 days, just the inflation seems a bit much.

Of course it could just be me and the prices are warranted due to commission costs and molding etc.

Guess really this post was just me speaking my mind. thanks.
Some of the reward tiers include the new models as part of them, so the increase in cost of the stretch goals is to pay for the increased amount of individual models casted.
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Re: Kickstarter - 2nd Stretch Goal Passed - Dark Judges Next

Postby tnjrp » Mon Sep 17, 2012 6:23 am

Myrm wrote:When does money actually go out for these things?
As Cyporiean said, your money goes away when the Kickstarter project closes.
When the game goes to market or does the pledge either take the cash then or hold the money in escrow somehow?
AFAIK the project initiator gets the money at around the same time, possibly a little later. I don't think Amazon keeps it in a bank long at all tho I'm not sure how they in turn take their cut: it might be off the top of the total or per transaction. If the former then it may take some time before the money is delivered.

Kickstarter is about pledging, in what you might liken to a charity contribution. It's not like a regular shop so you don't get a refund if the project later falls flat. This is rather important to consider when funding a project by someone(s) you aren't sure about.
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Re: Kickstarter - 2nd Stretch Goal Passed - Dark Judges Next

Postby Cyporiean » Mon Sep 17, 2012 6:53 am

Amazon will generally hold the money for a few days, I believe on our last one they had it for about 3 days before we could withdraw to our bank (adding another day or so).

Kickstarter takes its fee off the top, and then Amazon takes it per transaction, which all together adds up to about 9% of the total.
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Re: Kickstarter - 3rd Stretch Goal Passed - Sov Invasion Nex

Postby msprange » Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:35 am

More news on the Judge Dredd Kickstarter - we passed two more goals, which means we have lots more models in the works and available for you to pledge upon - the Zombie Horde, Citi-Def Squad, Electro-Cordons... and the Dark Judges. Many thanks for your kind support on this project, we are starting to see some really exciting models now!

The Zombie Horde, Citi-Def Squad and Dark Judges will all be box sets that can be selected as one or more of your choices at Rookie, Street Judge and Wally Squad levels, and they will be added, along with the Electro-Cordons, at Council of Judges and Chief Judge levels.

Next up for a stretch goal... a persopnal favourite of mine, the Sov Invasion Force, something we have talked about doing ever since we started the Judge Dredd miniatures game. If we pass $16,000, we will add the Sov Invasion Force, consisting of six Sov Judges and Officers (with a variety of weaponry) and a Sentenoid, a large robot designed to enter an enemy city and create mayhem before the main Sov army arrives. Perfect for tackling the decadent Mega-City One judges!

Later this week, we will be posting the first version of the Block War supplement up for free download, and we will be unveiling the Pat Wagon! We have also started contracting sculptors for these new models and hopefully we will be able to showcase some of their work before the end of the Kickstarter.

You can find everything at;

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/199 ... -block-war
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Re: Kickstarter - 3rd Stretch Goal Passed - Sov Invasion Nex

Postby DyN » Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:53 am

Any chance of some pictures of the new and forthcoming sets?

Thanks
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Re: Kickstarter - 3rd Stretch Goal Passed - Sov Invasion Nex

Postby nozza_uk » Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:12 pm

So if we hit the Sov Invasion stretch goal, what's the next stretch goal likely to be?
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Re: Kickstarter - 3rd Stretch Goal Passed - Sov Invasion Nex

Postby msprange » Mon Sep 17, 2012 5:57 pm

DyN wrote:Any chance of some pictures of the new and forthcoming sets?

Thanks
We have already started commissioning sculptors for the new sets. Fingers crossed we will have some greens to start showing you before the end of the Kickstarter!
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Re: Kickstarter - 3rd Stretch Goal Passed - Sov Invasion Nex

Postby msprange » Mon Sep 17, 2012 5:59 pm

nozza_uk wrote:So if we hit the Sov Invasion stretch goal, what's the next stretch goal likely to be?
It is going to be one of two things, depending on what gets finished first. One I am _really_ excited about, but I don't know whether it will be ready tomorrow or not. The other is something I have been wanting to bring to the game for a long time.

We are going to start posting two stretch goals at a time from tomorrow onwards, due to requests, so you can see what is coming up after the current goal.
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Re: Kickstarter - 3rd Stretch Goal Passed - Sov Invasion Nex

Postby Da Boss » Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:17 pm

never been involved in a Kick starter thing but quite interested.........

soo loooking at the page:

Does Council of Judges get you extra stuff as its got pics but with a padlock? Slightly confused.

Will you be doing any terrain like in the old Necormunda box set?
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Re: Kickstarter - 3rd Stretch Goal Passed - Sov Invasion Nex

Postby Rambler » Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:25 pm

The Pad Locked stuff is if a certain level of pledges is hit certain item will be added to those levels. Note not all the Pad Lock stuff is released at once it sorta dribbles in as stretch goals are reached.
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Re: Kickstarter - 3rd Stretch Goal Passed - Sov Invasion Nex

Postby Greg Smith » Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:52 pm

Da Boss wrote:never been involved in a Kick starter thing but quite interested.........

soo loooking at the page:

Does Council of Judges get you extra stuff as its got pics but with a padlock? Slightly confused.

Will you be doing any terrain like in the old Necormunda box set?
Currently you would get the Zombies and Dark Judges extra. If the total exceeds $16000 (ie the stretch goal) you would also get the Sovs. The stretch goals encourage people to spend more, cos not only do they get more, but the stuff they have already bought gets better.

Other Kickstarters I've seen have little things to spend money on so that the stretch goal gets hit. If there were Dredd dice for example people who have already bought stuff might buy a dice or ten to bump up the stretch goal. On top of that, if the the lower level pledges benefited from extra stuff, then people are more inclined to add in a little bit so the total gets closer to the stretch.
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Re: Kickstarter - 3rd Stretch Goal Passed - Sov Invasion Nex

Postby msprange » Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:35 pm

Mega-City One is on the alert right now; as we get ever closer to the next stretch goal, the Sov Invasion force prepares its assault on the decadent capitalist judges...

Before that happens though, we wanted to update you on a few things that have happened/are going on.

1. We have added the Lawmaster to the Chief Judge level, giving you more for your pledge.

2. There is an entirely new pledge level - the Citi-Def Soldier. This one will give you the rulebook in a hardcopy, hardcover, full colour tome, delivered free to your doorstep, courtesy of the guys at Wargame Vault. If you have already pledged and fancy this rulebook, remember you can simply increase your current pledge to cover other items. We will be in touch with you after the Kickstarter ends to find out what exactly you were after.

3. Our graphics guy, Will, is just working on the artwork at the moment, but we will be adding a new stretch goal this afternoon - upon touching $18,000, we will immediatly commission new miniatures for Judge Anderson, Judge DeMarco, DeMarco PI, and Travis Perkins. A healthy batch of personalities, if there ever was one!

4. All going well, we should be unveiling Sandrine's new Pat Wagon tomorrow!
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Re: Kickstarter - 3rd Stretch Goal Passed - Sov Invasion Nex

Postby nozza_uk » Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:46 pm

Wonder which outfit DeMarco PI will be wearing?

Maybe this one from The Simping Detective?

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Re: Kickstarter - 3rd Stretch Goal Passed - Sov Invasion Nex

Postby cfirpi » Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:16 pm

:oops: I didnt realise they taught judged that kind of art at the acadamy.
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Re: Kickstarter - 3rd Stretch Goal Passed - Sov Invasion Nex

Postby Da Boss » Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:48 pm

Its obvious that the Wally squad can be very flexible ;)
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Re: Kickstarter - 3rd Stretch Goal Passed - Sov Invasion Nex

Postby tnjrp » Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:21 am

Da Boss wrote:never been involved in a Kick starter thing but quite interested.........
Well, some people who have been involved with a KS project seem confused (and underwhelmed) as well. Example of an on-going discussion on another forum:
http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?topic=45675.0

A certain lack of goodwill some players exhibit towards Mongoose aside, maybe the KS page might benefit from some clarification -- for those who haven't actually followed up on what's been done with the property. I'm pretty clear on what is coming currently at which pledge level personally, but I'm perhaps in the better informed end of the spectrum in regards to the JD minis.
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Re: Kickstarter - 3rd Stretch Goal Passed - Sov Invasion Nex

Postby Butcher's Boy » Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:49 am

There were still quite a few positive posts on there, and some people who blatantly had fact wrong (like the fut who said dredd was £9+p&p on the mongoose store) overall i don't think its too bad.

Also considering they were looking to raise £2k and are currently up over £16k they arent doing too bad :)
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Re: Kickstarter - 3rd Stretch Goal Passed - Sov Invasion Nex

Postby Moji SD » Wed Sep 19, 2012 2:10 pm

Well, some people who have been involved with a KS project seem confused (and underwhelmed) as well. Example of an on-going discussion on another forum:
http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?topic=45675.0
I just read the forum. Some of them are complaining about the quality of the casts. I have bought most of the boxed sets and none of the models have problems. Foundry do make high quality casts, but they're expensive and their range is very small. Mongoose is putting them out there!

There are always gonna be armchair critics. Personally, I'm very excitied about this KS.

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Re: Kickstarter - 3rd Stretch Goal Passed - Sov Invasion Nex

Postby cfirpi » Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:22 pm

Moji SD wrote:
Well, some people who have been involved with a KS project seem confused (and underwhelmed) as well. Example of an on-going discussion on another forum:
http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?topic=45675.0
I just read the forum. Some of them are complaining about the quality of the casts. I have bought most of the boxed sets and none of the models have problems. Foundry do make high quality casts, but they're expensive and their range is very small. Mongoose is putting them out there!

There are always gonna be armchair critics. Personally, I'm very excitied about this KS.

cheers
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I concur, I have quite a few judges, the apes and punks. they are all very good sculpts. There is very llittle flash and have yet to have a miscast. Detail is always up to par, much more than the foundry ones I would say.

As Moji said though. There will always be critics who just spew stuff out due to blind loyalty to another brand or just plain bieng drokk-headed creep.
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Re: Kickstarter - 3rd Stretch Goal Passed - Sov Invasion Nex

Postby GamerDude » Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:34 pm

I have a large amount of the JD minis (also played GoMC1 back in the day) but I've never gotten involved with a kickstarter so I'm lost.

My biggest confusion is: If a 'stretch goal' are reached and *then* someone signs up on the kickstarter after that new item is added... does the person get the same stuff as someone who pledged that particular level on day one, or do they only get what comes from stretch goals that are reached after they sign up.

Example (to be clear)
Start
Day 1 - $200 gets "X"
Day 27 - 'Joe Shmoe' sighs up at $200 level
Day 34 - Stretch Goal reached, $200 gets the "super-dooper biker" added
Day 40 - 'Sammy Wiilson' signs up at the $200 level.

Does Sammy get that "Super-Dooper Biker" or just the original $200 items and any stretch goals later reached.

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