USAF M113

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USAF M113

Postby tiepilot1138 » Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:55 pm

I was glancing through S&P 52, and it says the USAF lists would include an M113. I noticed that in S&P 53, the only ground vehicle is a HMMWV. Was the 113 card overlooked? (I ask because I recently found a pile of FOV M113's and was wondering if I should get them).
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Postby Lorcan Nagle » Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:08 pm

Apparently there's more USAF cards in this month's S&P.
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Postby tiepilot1138 » Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:16 pm

oohhhh....... now I have a reason to look forward to the next issue!
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Postby toturi » Thu Mar 06, 2008 4:52 am

Did someone check out the Tactical Air Control Party? The USMC and the USAF just got a huge shot in the arm! A ground unit with range 84"? Gimme!
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Postby tiepilot1138 » Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:47 pm

I really like that counter-sniper team too. It makes them just like the bad guys in all those FPS games that can snipe you from across the field while you're in cover!

I missed the range on the TACP's. I think the 84" range is a typo... it's a regular M16A4. No way it shoots farther than an M109...
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Postby tiepilot1138 » Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:50 pm

Still no M113's though. And I was really hoping for a UH-60. I have some of those FOV 1/72 Blackhawks that look really cool (and even come with flying stands!)
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Postby shotgun-toting chipmunk » Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:32 pm

84"? Yeah, definitely a typo :)
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Postby toturi » Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:08 am

Typo? Why? Just because something is called an M16A4 doesn't mean that in the game it cannot have a range of 84".

Until I see an errata, I'd play it like it is.
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Postby Pietia » Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:45 am

Well, if STM says its a typo, it is a typo - after all he wrote the list ;-)
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Postby 127th Angry Angels » Fri Mar 07, 2008 12:34 pm

toturi wrote:Typo? Why? Just because something is called an M16A4 doesn't mean that in the game it cannot have a range of 84".

Until I see an errata, I'd play it like it is.
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Postby tiepilot1138 » Fri Mar 07, 2008 1:10 pm

toturi wrote:Typo? Why? Just because something is called an M16A4 doesn't mean that in the game it cannot have a range of 84".

Until I see an errata, I'd play it like it is.
Two reasons why...

1. The USMC Infantry M16A4 has a 24" range, and

2. The Real World M16A4, which is the current day battle rifle for the USMC has a maximum effective range of 550 meters, compared to the Barrett M109's max effective range of 2000 meters.
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Postby toturi » Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:19 am

Two reasons why...

1. The USMC Infantry M16A4 has a 24" range, and

2. The Real World M16A4, which is the current day battle rifle for the USMC has a maximum effective range of 550 meters, compared to the Barrett M109's max effective range of 2000 meters.
It doesn't matter that the USMC's M16A4 is 24", it is not the TACP's M16A4.

And I do not really care about what the real life capabilities of the weapons are, so the M109's max effective range could be 1 light year for all I care, I'd use the published stats of both weapons as is.
Pietia wrote:Well, if STM says its a typo, it is a typo - after all he wrote the list ;-)
So, he's the one that statted the models? OK then, so what should be the real range of the TACP's M16A4.
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Postby shotgun-toting chipmunk » Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:20 am

24"

Same as all the other M16A4s :)
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Postby tiepilot1138 » Mon Mar 10, 2008 1:17 pm

Slightly less than one light year, apparently... :roll:
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Postby MongooseMatt » Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:20 pm

tiepilot1138 wrote:Still no M113's though. And I was really hoping for a UH-60. I have some of those FOV 1/72 Blackhawks that look really cool (and even come with flying stands!)
Just added both of those to the US Army in BF Evo: Modern Combat - not long to wait now :)
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Postby noobdelux » Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:07 pm

btw who`s doing the proof reading? : P
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Postby MongooseMatt » Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:23 pm

noobdelux wrote:btw who`s doing the proof reading? : P
As you ask, about a dozen different people. . .
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Postby tiepilot1138 » Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:55 pm

msprange wrote:
tiepilot1138 wrote:Still no M113's though. And I was really hoping for a UH-60. I have some of those FOV 1/72 Blackhawks that look really cool (and even come with flying stands!)
Just added both of those to the US Army in BF Evo: Modern Combat - not long to wait now :)
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Postby Proteus454 » Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:13 pm

msprange wrote:Just added both of those to the US Army in BF Evo: Modern Combat - not long to wait now :)
Ah. I knew you guys would be doing the US Army officially-like this time around, but I didn't know it would be in the main rulebook as well. (Or maybe it isn't and we'll see it in S&P? I really need to pay better attention around heah...)
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Postby Lorcan Nagle » Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:20 pm

The weapon listing for the F-22 seems pretty messed up as well - the weapons box shows an M61A2 20mm cannon, AMRAAMs and Sidewinders, with appropriate special rules but the materiel box lists AMRAAMs and ASRAAMs as the weapons.
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