Yes, and that would happen right before you lost two generations of weapons development, because none of your contractors are submitting bids any more for some reason...Pietia wrote:If guys making those decisions had to test all that equipment on their own skins in combat conditions, we would soon find out that "the best" is not really even "good enough"...
Its not the developers who have to test the stuff, its the buearocrats who have to sign off on it.... The developers don't get paid if it don't do what it says it should.Xorrandor wrote: Yes, and that would happen right before you lost two generations of weapons development, because none of your contractors are submitting bids any more for some reason...
OK, fine, so no bureaucrats sign off on anything--still means no new weapons get deployed. And I'm curious what country you're living in, where defense contractors have pay in any way related to performance...cordas wrote:Its not the developers who have to test the stuff, its the buearocrats who have to sign off on it.... The developers don't get paid if it don't do what it says it should.
vitalis6969 wrote:I imagine it is going to be wave 500 or 600 before I actually get into this game.... sheesh.... The U.S. has one of the most lavish , if not THE most lavish, armed forces in the entire world. We just chuck money at a problem until we have whatever solution we were looking for....
And what do we have in BFE? The Marines with their second rate equipment!
Hello. . .McFly!!! U.S. ARMY!!!!!
Bradley Fighting Vehicles
Strykers with ALL their variants
Apaches
Special Forces
Delta Force
And please oh please mighty Gods of Mongoose... NO DESERT PAINT SCHEMES...Woodland Please... WOODLAND!!!!!
:rant is done, please continue with your scheduled programming:
-V
edit: Hell, I prolly would buy the marines if they were a different color... :sigh:
Huh read my other posts on this page (or my signature and profile) I live in the UK, and our defence contractors don't have to pay related to performance, hence some of the problems my friends and family have suffered. I have also heard similar complaints from family who serve in the US Army, although to be fair to them they complain a lot less than my British f&f. All I was saying that maybe if they did have to test the stuff before paying for it more of it might work the way its supposed to, and our boys and girls in uniform might not be so unhappy and at risk.Xorrandor wrote: OK, fine, so no bureaucrats sign off on anything--still means no new weapons get deployed. And I'm curious what country you're living in, where defense contractors have pay in any way related to performance...
Not saying it's right, just saying it is.
The vehicles are what I meant... The one end all / be all gray digital is a given, sorry, I wasn't more specific...Armchair_Marine wrote:
I want the US Army in this game too, but what's your obession with woodland camo? Woodland camo is dead, it's digital ACU all the way.
My bad. Wow, now that IS a future FANTASY setting...docrailgun wrote:I'd love to hear the designers' thoughts here... but it's possible that in the near-future of BEvo the US Army is still trying to find a way to be functional after being broken by the lack of training/rearming cycles and constant deployment in Iraq. There may not be any money to replace the Army's broken-down equipment, so the Marines may be the only force that the US has left to project force on the ground.
That would just have been messy.... and the EFTF have yet to see an forces from any other countries than the UK, and the first thing we get is a different tank... Don't the UMSC and Army both use the same tank?emperorpenguin wrote:given the multi-national mix of the EFTF I'm surprised that the Americans weren't released as US forces with a mix of Army, Air Force and Marines
True, but I plan to have a bit of a mixed up Euro forceemperorpenguin wrote:I honestly can't see it being any more messy than mixed platoons of British/French/Germans all of which will be out within the next few months (wave 6 & 7 I think)
prob a unit of german and french infantry, to go with my 2 brits, will give me the 4 for an infantry force, then add in a leopard for a 3rd tank on top of my 2 challies. Oh and I will be wanting transports for my german and french inf when that comes out, and a mix of support squads... and probably somewhere to sell a kidney to pay for it all. Broadly similar to myself. I'm planning 2 British sections, 1 Foreign Legion, 1 Heer, 1 Challenger, 1 Leopard. I think we'll be waiting a long time for French/German IFVs thoughcordas wrote:True, but I plan to have a bit of a mixed up Euro forceemperorpenguin wrote:I honestly can't see it being any more messy than mixed platoons of British/French/Germans all of which will be out within the next few months (wave 6 & 7 I think)
and I won't put them in WarriorsOh, then I'm all for that. I don't think you should worry too much cause all the pics I've seen of the Stryker and the Apache usually have them painted in green.vitalis6969 wrote:The vehicles are what I meant... The one end all / be all gray digital is a given, sorry, I wasn't more specific...Armchair_Marine wrote:
I want the US Army in this game too, but what's your obession with woodland camo? Woodland camo is dead, it's digital ACU all the way.
-V
so much so that some Legion marching songs are now sung in German!The Old Soldier wrote:Well, after WW2 many French Legion soldiers WERE German!Hiromoon wrote:Remember, put white flags with your french guys, and the Germans surrounding the French unit....
Nah, liking "Leathernecks" has nothing to do with it. It just happens Mongoose is aware of the following fact:vitalis6969 wrote:And what do we have in BFE? The Marines with their second rate equipment!
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