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Postby emperorpenguin » Wed May 02, 2007 11:27 pm

Hiromoon wrote:Incidentally, my last name is Zupan ( Zupanic if you want to go old school)...

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Is that Croatian?
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Postby Hiromoon » Wed May 02, 2007 11:47 pm

Slavic. My father's family hails from Slovinia and Germany....
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Postby emperorpenguin » Wed May 02, 2007 11:56 pm

Hiromoon wrote:Slavic. My father's family hails from Slovinia and Germany....
Croats are Slavs :wink: I wasn't far off, Slovenia is next door. My girlfriend is Slovak
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Postby Hiromoon » Thu May 03, 2007 12:21 am

Don't tell them that. That region of Europe is fairly messed up! o.O
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Postby Gibbs » Thu May 03, 2007 3:30 am

Hiromoon wrote:Don't tell them that. That region of Europe is fairly messed up! o.O
Ain't that the truth! :lol:
I'm half Serbian half croatian, sometimes I wake up in the morning and want to kill myself!
A line from an Australian movie, thought it was particularly appropriate. Hiroslavian sounds more too me like an updated version of Machiavellian.
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Postby emperorpenguin » Thu May 03, 2007 9:57 am

Hiromoon wrote:Don't tell them that. That region of Europe is fairly messed up! o.O
The Croats and Slovenes are friends so that's ok :) I remember when Slovenia declared independence from Yugoslavia the Croats refused to let the Yugoslav army cross their territory to stop Slovenia breaking away. That took a lot of b****
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Postby mthomason » Thu May 03, 2007 11:49 am

Hiromoon wrote:
Wait... Hiroslavian?
Hehe

Much as I'd love to give you the credit, it was down to bodging around with some word roots and translations....

And a bonus point to anyone who can work out the origins of "Zapasnova"
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Postby emperorpenguin » Thu May 03, 2007 11:56 am

mthomason wrote:And a bonus point to anyone who can work out the origins of "Zapasnova"
I think it means New War in Slovak and thus other Slavic languages :?:
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Postby Poko » Thu May 03, 2007 1:04 pm

zapas-stock,reserve. Nova-well, obvious. so, something like "war for new stocks"(presumably oil or sthing)? :lol:
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Postby emperorpenguin » Thu May 03, 2007 1:08 pm

Poko wrote:zapas-stock,reserve. :
Zapas is "fight" or "war" in my Slovak dictionary. I'm surprised the Polish word is so different! no idea what "stock" or "reserve" are in Slovak
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Postby GJD » Thu May 03, 2007 1:29 pm

Zapa also means secret work or intrigue in Spanish.

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Postby emperorpenguin » Thu May 03, 2007 1:33 pm

so we have an "intriguing new stock war" :lol:
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Postby Hiromoon » Thu May 03, 2007 2:19 pm

mthomason wrote: Hehe

Much as I'd love to give you the credit, it was down to bodging around with some word roots and translations....

And a bonus point to anyone who can work out the origins of "Zapasnova"
Works for me. :D I just found it slightly odd, that's all.
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Postby emperorpenguin » Thu May 03, 2007 2:23 pm

on the subject of slavic words

did you know "Skoda" as in the car manufacturer, means "damage", "harm" or "injury"

talk about an off-putting name! :shock:
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Postby Mr Evil » Thu May 03, 2007 5:14 pm

emperorpenguin wrote:on the subject of slavic words

did you know "Skoda" as in the car manufacturer, means "damage", "harm" or "injury"

talk about an off-putting name! :shock:
maybe they made tanks first ?
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Postby BuShips » Thu May 03, 2007 5:32 pm

Mr Evil wrote:
emperorpenguin wrote:on the subject of slavic words

did you know "Skoda" as in the car manufacturer, means "damage", "harm" or "injury"

talk about an off-putting name! :shock:
maybe they made tanks first ?
Nice theory, but no. They made bicycles. :wink:

According to Wiki,
In Czech, the word 'škoda' means "damage, detriment, disadvantage", and occurs in the stock phrase "to je škoda", which roughly means, "It's a pity". It has the same meaning in several Slavic languages such as Slovene, Croatian, Ukrainian and Polish, though in the latter it is spelled 'szkoda'.
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Postby Mr Evil » Thu May 03, 2007 5:43 pm

Several armaments firms in Czechoslovakia, prior to the occupation by Germany, were concerned with the design, development and production of tanks and other fighting vehicles -both for use by the Czech Army and for commercial sale to foreign armies. The two main tank models were the Skoda LT-35 and the CKD (Cesko-moravska Kolben Danek) TNHP, which the Germans took into service as the PzKpfw 35(t) and the PzKpfw38(t), respectively. The (t) was an abbreviation of tscheche, the German for Czech.

http://www.wargamer.com/Hosted/Panzer/czech.html

http://www.achtungpanzer.com/articles/skoda.htm

http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/Czec ... vakia.html

seems plausable they made tanks ?
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Postby Poko » Thu May 03, 2007 6:26 pm

the factory name's actually comes from the name of the main engineer and later owner, mr Emil Skoda :P

and if you want to talk about bad names, you just can't forget about Osram company(lightbulbs producer) and polish language :lol: :oops:
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Postby BuShips » Thu May 03, 2007 6:43 pm

Mr Evil wrote:Several armaments firms in Czechoslovakia, prior to the occupation by Germany, were concerned with the design, development and production of tanks and other fighting vehicles -both for use by the Czech Army and for commercial sale to foreign armies. The two main tank models were the Skoda LT-35 and the CKD (Cesko-moravska Kolben Danek) TNHP, which the Germans took into service as the PzKpfw 35(t) and the PzKpfw38(t), respectively. The (t) was an abbreviation of tscheche, the German for Czech.

http://www.wargamer.com/Hosted/Panzer/czech.html

http://www.achtungpanzer.com/articles/skoda.htm

http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/Czec ... vakia.html

seems plausable they made tanks ?
I was answering your statement of "maybe they made tanks first ?", so my answer was to that question of the Skoda name origination. Of course they made tanks in WW2 :roll:, but before they made tanks in the 1930's they made bicycles in the 1890's, from whence the name of Skoda originated. As a separate point, the German army scored a real bonus when they "captured" Czechoslovakia and acquired their tank production. Those units became part of the armor units that were then used in the Blitzkrieg.
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Postby emperorpenguin » Thu May 03, 2007 7:33 pm

BuShips wrote:According to Wiki,
In Czech, the word 'škoda' means "damage, detriment, disadvantage", and occurs in the stock phrase "to je škoda", which roughly means, "It's a pity". It has the same meaning in several Slavic languages such as Slovene, Croatian, Ukrainian and Polish, though in the latter it is spelled 'szkoda'.
They forgot Slovak :(
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