Lone Wolf - New Books and Old

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Re: Lone Wolf - New Books and Old

Postby Ningauble » Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:11 am

RatedRWolf wrote:Nevertheless, a simple reprint of a 20 year old book (yes, there are some little changes, but how many? very very few, and the more you go on with the series, the less they are) is completely unuseful for the old fans
No, it isn't. I only own the books in Swedish, and only the first 12 were published here. I'd love to have the entire series in paperback. I wouldn't mind to have some bonus material, but it is not a big deal for me if there is none.
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Re: Lone Wolf - New Books and Old

Postby Sabretooth » Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:36 am

I'm back after a lot of time just because i've been reported this answer...
msprange wrote:The paperbacks will not have bonus adventures - there is no reason for the softbacks to have them.
so there is no reason for us to buy them..
minor adjustment on the old ones (apart from number 1) are not enough to buy a complete reprint..

with the hardcovers beeing expensive (IMHO and economic possibilities) and, as i read, full of errors, i'll keep my old series and be happy with it..

thanks for losing a great occasion on more sales...
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Re: Lone Wolf - New Books and Old

Postby Sabretooth » Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:42 am

msprange wrote:
RatedRWolf wrote:
They clearly stopped because there was no reason to reprint the whole series without any insurance of seeing it completed with the last four books, and probably the lenght of the project has been another important factor.
Well, those are two possible reasons. There is another...
and many more.. "bad" translation and adaptation flattening all the correction and rewrite of the new edition (already talked about it with Joe himself a couple years ago when he visited biggest con here in Italy), lack of pubblicity, lack of any insurance about the timing of future reprints, lack of any concret news about 29-32, death of the first RPG and no pubblication of the second..
but at least they weren't so expanive as HC version would have been and had something more than the old edition as to make them interesting in some way...
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Re: Lone Wolf - New Books and Old

Postby Tabris » Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:20 pm

Wow - this whole thread has me quite worried. Back in 2007 when the Lone Wolf reprints/Megadeals were first announced Mongoose claimed that they "made enough money" on the initial Megadeal offer purchases alone to insure republication of the entire Lone Wolf line. Now we hear that they are barely breaking even and releases have trickled down to 2-3 per year, if that?

I really hope that we see the entire 32 book line republished, but this is pretty depressing news.
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Re: Lone Wolf - New Books and Old

Postby Random Code » Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:15 pm

Sabretooth wrote:so there is no reason for us to buy them...
Maybe not you but I certainly will be.
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Re: Lone Wolf - New Books and Old

Postby WritingWolf » Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:42 pm

I can see myself buying them too Random Code! Have the collection 3 times then! Plus it helps limit the wear and tear on them all, and keeps the CEs "special" for longer too.

Bit worried about all the negativity on this thread, I mean Mongoose are still publishing the books, just not keeping huge stocks back (as a veteran of Dr Who I remember when the BBC would publish a story and then instantly "delete" it making it really hard to get unless you got in there first). As long as we get our pre-orders in, along with the Megadeal, what is there to worry about? It just means that in 4 years wewon't be able to go back and get the CEs - but I kinda assumed that already.

And the paperbacks will mean LW gets more publicity / fans which has gotta be good for everyone. Right?
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Re: Lone Wolf - New Books and Old

Postby msprange » Tue Jul 03, 2012 10:33 pm

And the CEs will be more collectible.

Really is nothing to worry about, we just need to warn people that the CEs won't be around forever and if you want the complete set, get them while you can!
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Re: Lone Wolf - New Books and Old

Postby jolt » Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:37 pm

Tabris wrote:Wow - this whole thread has me quite worried. Back in 2007 when the Lone Wolf reprints/Megadeals were first announced Mongoose claimed that they "made enough money" on the initial Megadeal offer purchases alone to insure republication of the entire Lone Wolf line. Now we hear that they are barely breaking even and releases have trickled down to 2-3 per year, if that?

I really hope that we see the entire 32 book line republished, but this is pretty depressing news.

I agree. In fact, I started worrying years ago. When I first heard about LW being released again years ago at GenCon I was pretty excited. I did the original Mega-Deal but months of (supposedly) printer errors kept me from getting even a single book for some time. Books 1-4 arrived all at once only two months before Book 5. Twelve books have come since. At first it wasn't too bad but still significantly slower than was originally promised (6-8 weeks per book).

What really irked me was that in Dec. 2010, in the State of the Mongoose, they reiterated that same release schedule promising additional LW support. As the current wait between books is now 20-26 weeks that statement seems quite ridiculous (it seemed ridiculous at the time to be honest).

I too would like to see the entire 32 books (as that's what I paid for) since, in the States, we never saw anything past Book 20; and those were heavily rewritten. But production continues to slow and none of Mongoose's platitudes have come to pass. Repeated promises of faster production and more upfront info have never developed and production continues to get slower.

Hell, it usually takes six weeks for me to get the book after its (supposed) release and I live in the same State as where the books ship from. This has been one of the most consumer unfriendly processes I have ever seen from a gaming company still in business.
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Re: Lone Wolf - New Books and Old

Postby Tabris » Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:35 pm

The funny part is that Mongoose's publishing arm in the US is (or at least used to be) in Dayton, Ohio, literally an hour away from where I live, and it appears that the last few books were shipped from the UK to my address?

I'm pretty concerned about this whole thing.
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Re: Lone Wolf - New Books and Old

Postby daddio2810 » Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:28 pm

Just read this post - absolutely gutted! I have the original paperback series and have been recently collecting the hard back editions for my son. This may be a stupid question but does this mean that I can no longer buy books 4, 5, 10, 15 and 16 in the hard back format. I will be so gutted if I cant. Is there anything mongoose (matt) can do to help. One very worried lifelong Lone Wolf fan.
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Re: Lone Wolf - New Books and Old

Postby FallingPhoenix » Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:08 am

Check the first post again, daddio2810. Matt said to send him an email if you're still missing some of the ones they pulled. I did and I've already gotten all but one of them, with that one on the way!
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Re: Lone Wolf - New Books and Old

Postby Ningauble » Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:46 am

Why are the softback versions of Flight from the Dark and Fire on the Water no longer listed under "Upcoming Releases"? Are they already available? :D
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Re: Lone Wolf - New Books and Old

Postby jolt » Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:36 pm

Wrong post
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Re: Lone Wolf - New Books and Old

Postby Old Wolf » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:23 pm

So they're not going to put the bonus adventures in the paperbacks, maybe they'll put the bonus adventures into a 1,2,or 3 books onto themselves. I'd be the first to buy such books (and probably alot of you would too).

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