Long cold wait II = 3rd edition?

Discuss Mongoose RPGs here, such as the OGL rulebooks, Jeremiah, Armageddon 2089 and Macho Women with Guns
The King
Chief Mongoose
Posts: 5003
Joined: Sun Sep 05, 2004 11:41 pm
Location: City of Wonders, Valusia (before the major cataclysm)

Long cold wait II = 3rd edition?

Postby The King » Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:29 pm

Just asking this because I can't see what could postpone the schedule.
An American-style kitchen is a kitchen in the living room.
A French-style toilet has toilet in the living room.
My neighbours combine both styles.
PrinceYyrkoon
Lesser Spotted Mongoose
Posts: 772
Joined: Mon May 11, 2009 12:02 pm

Re: Long cold wait II = 3rd edition?

Postby PrinceYyrkoon » Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:32 pm

The King wrote:Just asking this because I can't see what could postpone the schedule.
You know what? Im guessing its miniatures and a minis ruleset. I cant see it being a new edition. Just my guessing though.
Supplement Four
Cosmic Mongoose
Posts: 3855
Joined: Sat Dec 01, 2007 4:28 am

Postby Supplement Four » Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:34 pm

Why would a minis set hold up production?
flatscan
Lesser Spotted Mongoose
Posts: 658
Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:48 pm
Location: Austin, Texas

Postby flatscan » Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:36 pm

Maybe a patch to the rules? D&D had it's 3.5, perhaps this is Conan 2.5? Dunno, but I wish Mongoose would give us a few more bread crumbs than they have. :?
Games Running: The Nemedian Chronicles - Path of Wolves - Conan d20

Game Playing: The Hack Below - HackMaster 4e, Siege Weapons - Champions
The King
Chief Mongoose
Posts: 5003
Joined: Sun Sep 05, 2004 11:41 pm
Location: City of Wonders, Valusia (before the major cataclysm)

Postby The King » Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:51 pm

flatscan wrote:Maybe a patch to the rules? D&D had it's 3.5, perhaps this is Conan 2.5? Dunno, but I wish Mongoose would give us a few more bread crumbs than they have. :?
Mongoose didn't stop production when they released the Atlantean edition after the first one.
An American-style kitchen is a kitchen in the living room.
A French-style toilet has toilet in the living room.
My neighbours combine both styles.
flatscan
Lesser Spotted Mongoose
Posts: 658
Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:48 pm
Location: Austin, Texas

Postby flatscan » Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:01 pm

Well, if it is a patch, perhaps it's one that changes things enough that certain elements of the other books will have to be updated as well? I hope this isn't the case, as is I like that the 2e rules are still 99% compatible with 1e and Atlantean material. Just speculating here.
Games Running: The Nemedian Chronicles - Path of Wolves - Conan d20

Game Playing: The Hack Below - HackMaster 4e, Siege Weapons - Champions
The King
Chief Mongoose
Posts: 5003
Joined: Sun Sep 05, 2004 11:41 pm
Location: City of Wonders, Valusia (before the major cataclysm)

Postby The King » Wed Jul 29, 2009 4:23 pm

may be they'll go 4E OGL
An American-style kitchen is a kitchen in the living room.
A French-style toilet has toilet in the living room.
My neighbours combine both styles.
Demetrio
Lesser Spotted Mongoose
Posts: 496
Joined: Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:12 pm

Postby Demetrio » Wed Jul 29, 2009 4:28 pm

Yes, maybe.

Except they've said they won't. In no uncertain terms. That doesn't make it impossible, merely highly unlikely.

I confess, I'd love to see a 'patch' that tweaks combat and tones down some feats.
I loved you, so I drew these tides of men into my hands
and wrote my will across the sky in stars
Strom
Greater Spotted Mongoose
Posts: 1493
Joined: Tue Apr 06, 2004 4:17 am
Location: Michigama
Contact:

Postby Strom » Wed Jul 29, 2009 4:55 pm

I still have one of the 2e crappy bindings cause I never had time to send it back so a new edition with no binding issues would be sweet - preferably with a better cover than 2e.

I'm excited because technically the game is the same one that came out in 2004 so I think this will be the first real version change and since they are sticking to the OGL (Matt said as much) I'm excited to see some skill packages, maybe improved easier access to maneuvers, better critical hit mechanics, - in other words a sincere effort to improve a five year old system.
“Crom and his devils!”
The King
Chief Mongoose
Posts: 5003
Joined: Sun Sep 05, 2004 11:41 pm
Location: City of Wonders, Valusia (before the major cataclysm)

Postby The King » Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:30 pm

If there is a 3rd edition, the second wouldn't have last long. But in the end the best is when the rules doesn't change too much over the years, so that ancient material is still usable.
Strom wrote:I still have one of the 2e crappy bindings cause I never had time to send it back so a new edition with no binding issues would be sweet - preferably with a better cover than 2e.
Don't you know you can have a replacement if you e-mail directly to Matt?
An American-style kitchen is a kitchen in the living room.
A French-style toilet has toilet in the living room.
My neighbours combine both styles.
PrinceYyrkoon
Lesser Spotted Mongoose
Posts: 772
Joined: Mon May 11, 2009 12:02 pm

Postby PrinceYyrkoon » Wed Jul 29, 2009 8:07 pm

Supplement Four wrote:Why would a minis set hold up production?
Dunno. I can see it holding up Empires of the Hyborian Age though. And maybe Thiefs Companion was withdrawn because of crimes against front cover art. :!:
Strom
Greater Spotted Mongoose
Posts: 1493
Joined: Tue Apr 06, 2004 4:17 am
Location: Michigama
Contact:

Postby Strom » Wed Jul 29, 2009 8:55 pm

The King wrote: Don't you know you can have a replacement if you e-mail directly to Matt?
I know King but I got the book from a rpg trade (I don't have an unlimited RPG budget!) so I just have to live with it.

I would be surprised if miniatures are in the equation for a new launch for a few reasons:

1) Mongoose once announced a miniatures Conan game then backed off.

2) Since then Mongoose has cancelled all their miniatures production

3) Mongoose has said they will stick to what they do best - rpgs.

I'm excited for a new all color rule book as well. The black & white 2e book looks terrible next to 1e/Atlantean ( I have one of the early dark print runs) Wonder what the border will contain this time out?
“Crom and his devils!”
The King
Chief Mongoose
Posts: 5003
Joined: Sun Sep 05, 2004 11:41 pm
Location: City of Wonders, Valusia (before the major cataclysm)

Postby The King » Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:15 pm

Strom wrote:Wonder what the border will contain this time out?
Indeed, 2nd edition borders are ridiculous (compared to 1st edition with a Frazetta-like big-breasts slave.
An American-style kitchen is a kitchen in the living room.
A French-style toilet has toilet in the living room.
My neighbours combine both styles.
lammomedes
Shrew
Posts: 14
Joined: Thu Apr 02, 2009 5:58 pm
Location: Florida

Postby lammomedes » Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:58 pm

If I had to make a guess, I would think that Mongoose might have finally found a way to get two Conan games out of their license with the corp that controls REH's material. So we see Mongoose release a Conan Runequest rule set, and then dual stat sourcebooks for a year or two, before finally announcing that the Conan 3.5 rpg rule set is finished.

Or could there be a Conan Pathfinder set of rules coming out?

Just guessing, though I think the first is much more likely and probably more profitable to Mongoose in the long run.
Bygoneyrs
Lesser Spotted Mongoose
Posts: 420
Joined: Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:56 pm
Location: Rancocas, NJ - USA
Contact:

Postby Bygoneyrs » Thu Jul 30, 2009 3:53 am

Hey vs 3.5 Revised using Pathfinder would be ok with me...


Penn
Twin Agate Dragons
Mongoose
Posts: 196
Joined: Tue Jun 02, 2009 10:14 pm
Location: Valley of the Sun (AZ)
Contact:

Postby Twin Agate Dragons » Thu Jul 30, 2009 4:55 am

I seriously hope there isn't an overhaul to the rules. With what little spending power I have I invested in the 2nd Ed less than two months ago.
Sarûnia: A Pathfinder Inspired Campaign Setting
Blog / On Facebook / Pathfinder Database
Supplement Four
Cosmic Mongoose
Posts: 3855
Joined: Sat Dec 01, 2007 4:28 am

Postby Supplement Four » Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:21 am

It's got to be something to do with the rules. That's the only reason that makes sense to hold up printings of other books.
warzen
Banded Mongoose
Posts: 316
Joined: Mon Oct 30, 2006 10:59 am

Postby warzen » Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:02 am

Supplement Four wrote:It's got to be something to do with the rules. That's the only reason that makes sense to hold up printings of other books.
And then, if there so many differences that they had to put on hold new books, it doesn't bode well for the compatibility of older products.

W.
Supplement Four
Cosmic Mongoose
Posts: 3855
Joined: Sat Dec 01, 2007 4:28 am

Postby Supplement Four » Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:24 am

warzen wrote:
Supplement Four wrote:It's got to be something to do with the rules. That's the only reason that makes sense to hold up printings of other books.
And then, if there so many differences that they had to put on hold new books, it doesn't bode well for the compatibility of older products.
'Tis true.

Can you think of anything else that would hold up unrelated books except for some sort of rules change/addition?

Maybe they've figured out a way to make d20 less crunchy and easier to play.



Then again...maybe not so true.

I haven't seen Paizo's Pathfinder, but I understand it's supposed to be clean-up/streamlineing of the game WITH backwards compatibility with 3.5.

My money is on some form of Conan version of Pathfinder.
Lord High Munchkin
Greater Spotted Mongoose
Posts: 1292
Joined: Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:12 am
Location: Vancouver, where the rainbow ends/Oxford, occasionally, in an ivory tower

Postby Lord High Munchkin » Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:04 am

It is possible that they are simply expending their author energies writing for other systems...?
The desire for a "definitive, ultimate answer" is, in fact, classified by modern psychiatric medicine as a mental illness.

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests