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Players Guide and the "HYboria's" series

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:46 am
by LucaCherstich
In other threads I've read that the Players Guide has plenty of new material.
However, since its general focus seems to be the refinement of PCs, it looks to me that there is some overlap with the focus of the "Hyboria's finest, etc." series.
What I want to know is whether some old material of the Hyboria's series willl appear or not in the Players Guide.
Thank you in advance.

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 11:19 am
by VincentDarlage
The material in the Player's Guide and in the Hyboria's F series are distinct and different. While both focus on the Player, there is no directly shared information that I remember.

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 1:46 pm
by windman
really?

Are the H series books still relevant after 2e? I don't have them yet, and I was kinda hopin' that the best rules from them would be integrated into the new 2e books. I love your stuff Vincent, but there is only so much I can afford.

Are the H series books really compatible with 2e?

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:19 pm
by VincentDarlage
windman wrote:really? Are the H series books still relevant after 2e? Are the H series books really compatible with 2e?
Really. Yes, they are relevant after 2E and compatible with 2E.

The cultural material still applies, the feats still work, the combat manoevres still function, the multi-class options still work as described (the soldier multi-classes require the addition of the new class ability, and a few tweaks here and there, but all-in-all, they work still), and the new Borderer combat styles still work fine.

I took nothing substantial from them for the Player's Guide (I may have updated or corrected a feat or two, but I don't particularly remember if I did or not from the F series).

Most of the negative comments I get on this board stem from the use of reprints to make the product stand alone as much as possible, so I don't use them anymore, even if I think the reprint is appropriate.

The Player's Guide is NOT a revised F series in any shape or form. I think players will be happy to have the Player's Guide and the F series books on their shelves. 2E didn't change so drastically that anything would be wholly invalidated.

(on a personal note, I would like to see a collector's edition of the F series, all combined into a massive hardcover (and given a 2E make-over for a few minor points, such as the soldier multi-classes), but that may just be me. Some of my players use the F series books more than they do the core book.)

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 6:40 pm
by greenjelly
VincentDarlage wrote: (on a personal note, I would like to see a collector's edition of the F series, all combined into a massive hardcover (and given a 2E make-over for a few minor points, such as the soldier multi-classes), but that may just be me. Some of my players use the F series books more than they do the core book.)
I'd definitely be interested in buying that.

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 11:00 pm
by LucaCherstich
Thanks for the information.
I'm new to Conan 2e and I just pre-ordered the Players Guide.
I'm interested in Hyboria's F series and I just wanted to know whether they were useful or not.

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:14 am
by shouit
Can you use the Player's Guide without buying into 2nd edition? I am really not interested in dropping more money for the 2nd edition at this time, but the Player's Guide sounds cool.

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:27 am
by VincentDarlage
shouit wrote:Can you use the Player's Guide without buying into 2nd edition?
Yes. Actually, I wrote it without having seen 2nd Edition (it was still in process), if that tells you anything. It will work just fine with Atlantean edition materials. Some of the material were things I had written for 1st edition (such as the Zamboulan character race), but never got printed.

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:25 pm
by shouit
Damn... 13 minute turn around time on a question..

That's service.

Thanks Vincent...

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:47 pm
by LucaCherstich
I imagine that asking whether the "November 2007" date is exact is too much...am I wrong?

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:38 am
by VincentDarlage
LucaCherstich wrote:I imagine that asking whether the "November 2007" date is exact is too much...am I wrong?
If you are asking me, then it is too much. I have no idea when it will be published.

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:03 am
by Se Chris
Well, I've seen the galley for the Player's Guide, so November doesn't seem too far-fetched. It just needs correcting here and there, then we can start rolling them off the printers.

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:25 am
by LucaCherstich
Thanks a lot Chris!
Does it mean we wil get Retirn to the RoK & teh Player Guide both in November?