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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 6:17 pm
by Steve
Yes, I'd print/ bind it too. It's just that I play with people who like to pick up/bend back/ otherwise use (mistreat) books, and I am a freak about the condition of my books. At least if coffee gets spilt over it, I can reprint it...

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 9:24 pm
by PottsBr
Then you need to put your foot down and let them know, in no uncertain terms, that if they can't treat your property with respect, they can't use them.

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 11:05 pm
by lastbesthope
PottsBr wrote:Then you need to put your foot down and let them know, in no uncertain terms, that if they can't treat your property with respect, they can't use them.
<Whips out a catcher's mitt and throws the toy back to the pram on home base>

:D

Don't get me wrong I'm anal retentive about my books and stuff too. But sometimes you gotta sacrifice a little or you won't have a group to game with.

LBH

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 5:38 am
by TheAuldGrump
PDFs are good for niche and 'over the transom' stuff. So if some one turned in, oh, The Quintessential Pak'Mara it could be made available without the cost of printing.

It is also handy for products that have neared or passed the end of their print selling days.

The Auld Grump

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 3:36 pm
by redlaco
TheAuldGrump wrote:So if some one turned in, oh, The Quintessential Pak'Mara
ROTFLMAO ! :lol:

Just thinking about the table of content makes my stomach turns.

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 4:12 pm
by Chobbly
redlaco wrote:
TheAuldGrump wrote:So if some one turned in, oh, The Quintessential Pak'Mara
ROTFLMAO ! :lol:

Just thinking about the table of content makes my stomach turns.
Wouldn't bother a Pak'ma'ra though.... :)


Chobbly

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 6:55 pm
by TheAuldGrump
redlaco wrote:
TheAuldGrump wrote:So if some one turned in, oh, The Quintessential Pak'Mara
ROTFLMAO ! :lol:

Just thinking about the table of content makes my stomach turns.
Are you sure you don't mean 'contents of the table'?

The Auld Grump 'We even stomach pumped the Pak'ma'ra...'

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 8:45 am
by Dag'Nabbit
TheAuldGrump wrote:
redlaco wrote:
TheAuldGrump wrote:So if some one turned in, oh, The Quintessential Pak'Mara
ROTFLMAO ! :lol:

Just thinking about the table of content makes my stomach turns.
Are you sure you don't mean 'contents of the table'?

The Auld Grump 'We even stomach pumped the Pak'ma'ra...'
As long as they don't make it "Scratch and Sniff" we'll be all right. Otherwise, all bets are off.

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 2:21 pm
by redlaco
Dag'Nabbit wrote:As long as they don't make it "Scratch and Sniff" we'll be all right. Otherwise, all bets are off.
That's it, I can't take anymore... I think I'll always put some barf bag at arm's length before consulting these boards from now on. My fragile stomach can't take that much. :shock: :wink:

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:56 pm
by lastbesthope
redlaco wrote:
Dag'Nabbit wrote:As long as they don't make it "Scratch and Sniff" we'll be all right. Otherwise, all bets are off.
That's it, I can't take anymore... I think I'll always put some barf bag at arm's length before consulting these boards from now on. My fragile stomach can't take that much. :shock: :wink:
Haggis, haggis, haggis!!!!

:D

LBH

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 5:38 pm
by TheAuldGrump
Any relation to 'Badhers, badgers, badgers? (Cant you just see them jumping up and down...

The Auld Grump

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 3:42 am
by Ranger66
I like print books. However when I travel there is no way I can take my print books with me. Whenever I have to travel or one of my players the games come to a crashing halt. With a PDF I could put it on my laptop and still game while I was away from home. So portability is an issue.

I have to say I don't really understand the hatred of PDF's. If a book say the B5 core was only released as a PDF then I could understand it as I do like having a print version of the game myself.

But I would like to see both offered.

One of my friends likes the idea of getting books on Cd. I don't mind that idea either. I bought the White-Wolf cd that had the Core book, players book, sabbat I think and something else as well as a char generator. It was 50.00 I think. I found it very useful as while I owned the print books I took the cd with me when I traveled and still got to play Vampire.

SO I would be willing to buy a B5 cd like that. I would certainly consider buying a game I wasn't planning to like Judge Dredd if it came on a disk.

Just my 2c

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 7:41 pm
by Guest
I personally like both!

I love to have hard cover books that are correct and do not have mistakes in them. I prefer PDF so that I can quote corrections that need to be made, or softcover books that already have mistakes that cannot be corrected.

I like PDF maps that I can print out for my players. That would be nice as well. Beats bending my books up trying to copy a map for game play.

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 6:04 am
by crizh
I too would love to see PDF's.

Mongoose could sell them cheaper than the printed versions and still make more profit.

Don't get me wrong, the hardcopy versions still have their place, mostly round the gaming table, but I don't see the point in spending a fortune, most of which goes to middlemen, for supplements only one player uses and only once in a blue moon.

On the subject of piracy, ICE sell PDF's of all the current Rolemaster stuff, several of which I bought recently.

I've looked good and hard on all sorts of places and found exactly zero copies of the files ICE sell. One or two shoddy scans with no bookmarks and huge file sizes but not a single pirated copy of the much better quality stuff ICE sells openly with no DRM.

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 12:44 pm
by Jenesis
I'm picky - I want things both ways :)

On the one hand, having only a PDF of certain things would be a bit of a pain. As has been mentioned, a hard copy as a tabletop reference is very handy. On the other hand, things such as maps that you could print out would be very handy on disk, as it means you can show a map to players without having to cover up bits of the book. Although I notice that artwork is regarded as Product Identity rather than Open Game Content. Hrm.

Well, if Mongoose were to dish out CDs of things such as maps and handouts with campaigns such as The Fiery Trial along with the book for the purposes of printing, I'd happily spend a little more to get hold of one.

I would, however, be somewhat wary of something published only as a PDF.

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 4:24 am
by Michka
Please, please, please, No PDF format books. I can see how they could be less expensive and handy in certain situations, but what about reading on the toilet. For some of us, it's the best time to read.

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 5:50 am
by crizh
Michka wrote:Please, please, please, No PDF format books. I can see how they could be less expensive and handy in certain situations, but what about reading on the toilet. For some of us, it's the best time to read.
What?

You don't keep a lap-top in the bathroom!?