Review on the Stygia sourcebook ?

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Review on the Stygia sourcebook ?

Postby The King » Tue Jan 23, 2007 12:05 pm

While I think on it I don't believe anyone has wrote there a review (even a small one) about this sourcebook.
As I still don't have it I'd like to know your impression about it as well as the content.

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Postby The King » Wed Jan 24, 2007 5:14 pm

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Postby FailedSpotCheck » Wed Jan 24, 2007 6:54 pm

Intro
Life in Stygia
Stygian Subraces
Stygian Military
Festivals
Illnesses and Mummies
Faith and Fervour
Sorcery and Alchemy
Theocracy and Tyranny
Gazetteer
Skills and Feats
Prestige Classes
Foes and Fiends
NPC's
GMing Stygia

I loved it. If you want more detailed info, you can search through Yogah's great index, searching for the string [STY].
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Postby The King » Wed Jan 24, 2007 7:59 pm

Great. Many thanks. :D
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Postby MGBM » Wed Jan 24, 2007 10:12 pm

For me, it was a great sourcebook, right up there with Aquilonia. Well worth buying it.
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Postby Yogah of Yag » Wed Jan 24, 2007 10:33 pm

I am especially fond of it, too. I am a huge sucker for mummies, curses, pyramids, tombs and ravenous Sons of Set, oh my! :shock: :D
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Postby emirikol » Wed Jan 24, 2007 11:27 pm

Wow, those weren't the reviews I expected.

I consider it one of the weakest gaming sourcebooks of the series. I'm not going to do a full review, but I found there was too much un-game-related fluff, no historical stuff for creating scenarios whatsoever, zippo on map quality (only one..and it didn't match well with in book listings), and weak on adventure-creating tidbits.

It comes across as too much "don't adventure here." The text makes the society seem so entirely xenophobic that hunter-kller terminators would come after you and alarms would go off if you so much as lay one finger across the river. That's not a "Pro-Campaigning" type supplement. It doesn't need to be open welcome arms, that's not Stygia, but there weren't good hook provisions for me.

There is good stuff in there, but I expect the rest of you will discuss those in specifics.

I give the product a mediocre C compared to others of this line.

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Postby Aelric » Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:40 am

Well getting this book I read through it and found it to be a great source for information and new plans for my current game.Just when you thought you had seen it all,the Serpent-men have arrived :-).It has given me some items to place in certain areas,like some of the non-sorceous scrolls that could be placed anywhere on a map andI thought a that the extra gods in their gave it a bit more life to it as well.
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Postby Lord Jolly the Scribe » Thu Jan 25, 2007 2:11 am

I liked it. Very cool game source with awesome info and such. Especially on the Set pantheon and on mummification, monsters, and people. 5 out of 5. :D
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Postby Strom » Thu Jan 25, 2007 3:52 am

A must have book for any GM thinking of using Stygia for the backdrop of a campaign or adventure. The information is thick - there's 94 pages of Stygian info/stuff before the 21 page chapter "Beyond the Styx - An expanded Gazetter" . :shock: That chapter expands on the Road of Kings Stygian entry.

I like the book and marvel at the amount of information and background and detail Vincent compiled on the nation of Stygia. I agree with the positive reviews and I'm very glad to have this tome of Stygian knowledge. 8)
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Postby The King » Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:41 pm

Thanks for your comments. In fact I was surprised no one talked much about it when it was released as it is usually the case. I wondered whether there was some kind of taboo on this nation. :wink:

By the way, I would like to know if there are as useful as articles in Hyboria's Finest and Hyboria's Fallen as there are in Hyboria's Fiercest.

Though I highly dislike class books (pun intended), I appreciated a lot the text on the wilderness. Is there something akin in the others?
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Postby Krushnak » Thu Jan 25, 2007 5:11 pm

i only have hyboria's finest and its a freaking sweet book. from what ive heard the 3 hyboria's books are some of the best in the line.
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Postby MGBM » Thu Jan 25, 2007 8:45 pm

Yeap, they have useful articles, though of different aspects of the game. It's well worth buying them all.
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Postby The King » Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:37 pm

Yogah's web site is fabulous.
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Postby FailedSpotCheck » Mon Jan 29, 2007 4:47 am

emirikol wrote:Wow, those weren't the reviews I expected.

I consider it one of the weakest gaming sourcebooks of the series. I'm not going to do a full review, but I found there was too much un-game-related fluff, no historical stuff for creating scenarios whatsoever, zippo on map quality (only one..and it didn't match well with in book listings), and weak on adventure-creating tidbits.

It comes across as too much "don't adventure here." The text makes the society seem so entirely xenophobic that hunter-kller terminators would come after you and alarms would go off if you so much as lay one finger across the river. That's not a "Pro-Campaigning" type supplement. It doesn't need to be open welcome arms, that's not Stygia, but there weren't good hook provisions for me.

There is good stuff in there, but I expect the rest of you will discuss those in specifics.

I give the product a mediocre C compared to others of this line.

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Don't ya think that's a tad harsh? :shock: :?
I'd wager that the majority of the country is WIDE OPEN DESERT. IOW, plenty of vast, uninhabited places sprinkled with mysterious ruins that date back to the days of the Giant-Kings--or even older. Non-Stygian characters could probably wander for weeks w/out even seeing the walls of a populated settlement. If the non-Stygians must enter a city, there may be secret ways of doing it, or they can max out in Disguise and hide out in the sheik's harem. :lol: (Reminds me of that old myth of Thor dressing up as veiled giant-maiden...)
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Postby urdinaran » Mon Jan 29, 2007 3:11 pm

I think it is a very good sourcebook.

Yeah, Stygia seems very xenophobic, but remember in Red Nails it mentions that Conan was part of a mercenary unit hired to protect Stygia's southern borders from the Darfari. So it seems that foreigners are allowed in with permission.

It's also a great sourcebook if your players want to create an all Stygian group, maybe centered around an up and coming Sorcerer.
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Postby The King » Mon Jan 29, 2007 3:49 pm

urdinaran wrote:I think it is a very good sourcebook.

Yeah, Stygia seems very xenophobic, but remember in Red Nails it mentions that Conan was part of a mercenary unit hired to protect Stygia's southern borders from the Darfari. So it seems that foreigners are allowed in with permission.
In fact, Conan was part of a mercenary unit fighting against the Stygian army. He would never have joined a slave-keeping culture.
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Postby Csmallo » Tue Jan 30, 2007 12:52 am

The King wrote:
urdinaran wrote:I think it is a very good sourcebook.

Yeah, Stygia seems very xenophobic, but remember in Red Nails it mentions that Conan was part of a mercenary unit hired to protect Stygia's southern borders from the Darfari. So it seems that foreigners are allowed in with permission.
In fact, Conan was part of a mercenary unit fighting against the Stygian army. He would never have joined a slave-keeping culture.
He was in a mercenary unit guarding the Darfari border. From the Red Nails:

"At the bottom of the sea, mostly," he replied cheerfully. "The Zingarans sank my last ship off the Shemite shore--that's why I joined Zarallo's Free Companions. But I saw I'd been stung when we marched to the Darfar border. The pay was poor and the wine was sour, and I don't like black women. And that's the only kind that came to our camp at Sukhmet--rings in their noses and their teeth filed--bah! Why did you join Zarallo? Sukhmet's a long way from salt water."

He did later kill a Stygian that was chasing after Valeria. But I doubt the Free Company would have marched to the Darfari border to guard it and at the same time fight the Stygians.
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Postby thulsa » Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:39 am

The King wrote:He would never have joined a slave-keeping culture.
What about his service in Turan's army? (Can't remember if that was REH or pastiche, though -- probably the latter...)

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Postby The King » Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:29 am

Csmallo wrote:He was in a mercenary unit guarding the Darfari border. From the Red Nails:

"At the bottom of the sea, mostly," he replied cheerfully. "The Zingarans sank my last ship off the Shemite shore--that's why I joined Zarallo's Free Companions. But I saw I'd been stung when we marched to the Darfar border. The pay was poor and the wine was sour, and I don't like black women. And that's the only kind that came to our camp at Sukhmet--rings in their noses and their teeth filed--bah! Why did you join Zarallo? Sukhmet's a long way from salt water."

He did later kill a Stygian that was chasing after Valeria. But I doubt the Free Company would have marched to the Darfari border to guard it and at the same time fight the Stygians.
Indeed, you are quoting the introduction by de Camp. Howard didn't precise where Conan came from but I accept it.
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