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by AnotherDilbert
Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:37 pm
Forum: Traveller
Topic: Passenger Ship logistics
Replies: 40
Views: 742

Re: Passenger Ship logistics

Since ships already have annual maintenance for all the OTHER equipment on board, it's damn stupid to insist that life support gear have a separate fixed cost. This has nothing to do with annual maintenance. Life support, presumably included in stateroom cost, require annual maintenance just like e...
by AnotherDilbert
Thu Oct 10, 2019 7:30 pm
Forum: Traveller
Topic: Passenger Ship logistics
Replies: 40
Views: 742

Re: Passenger Ship logistics

So which cost are you talking about? Can you point me to where in the rules there are two separate life support costs? Life Support and Supplies: Each stateroom on a ship costs Cr1000 per month. This cost covers supplies for the life support system as well as food and water, although meals at this ...
by AnotherDilbert
Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:53 pm
Forum: Traveller
Topic: Experiment - determine ship damage by physical location on deck plan
Replies: 5
Views: 144

Re: Experiment - determine ship damage by physical location on deck plan

Mandatory disclaimer: It's too complicated. It takes too long time at the table. End. It presumes the deck plans are pretty exact, which not all are. Reasonably attacks damage ships from the surface in, middle decks would be difficult to reach, so we can't just select a random square on the deck pla...
by AnotherDilbert
Fri Oct 04, 2019 8:15 am
Forum: Traveller
Topic: Passenger Ship logistics
Replies: 40
Views: 742

Re: Passenger Ship logistics

I wouldn't that far...

I would mostly look for hydroponically grown fresh veggies to complement stored food. And perhaps some flowers for decoration.

Some foods, such as grains, store very well. Some foods can be frozen.
by AnotherDilbert
Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:00 pm
Forum: Traveller
Topic: Spacecraft Operations - Running Costs
Replies: 61
Views: 911

Re: Spacecraft Operations - Running Costs

Arleigh Burke is a class of warship. The USN doesn't keep designs static. Currently they are on Flight III of the design as of 2016, with the named class ship being launch in 1990. As the ships age they are pulled out of service and given modernizations to the current version - though it's not alwa...
by AnotherDilbert
Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:56 pm
Forum: Traveller
Topic: Passenger Ship logistics
Replies: 40
Views: 742

Re: Passenger Ship logistics

phavoc wrote: The issue with growing your own food is going to be speed and variety. Plants and animals will only mature so fast, even if you can grow them in a 24x7 environment.
Quite, bit nothing especially impossible. A few thousand years of engineering might solve a few problems.
by AnotherDilbert
Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:03 pm
Forum: Traveller
Topic: Spacecraft Operations - Running Costs
Replies: 61
Views: 911

Re: Spacecraft Operations - Running Costs

Part of the reason for crew comfort increases is that smaller crews allow more space per crew. Quite, but part of it also generally increased living standards making it difficult to recruit people who accept such cramped quarters, at least in Europe. I've seen some discussion of the RN going for si...
by AnotherDilbert
Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:33 pm
Forum: Traveller
Topic: Spacecraft Operations - Running Costs
Replies: 61
Views: 911

Re: Spacecraft Operations - Running Costs

To compare with Traveller you have to add up all crew compartments, such as berths, heads, galleys, messes, wardrooms, lounges, gyms, corridors, etc. Much of that would be considered “Common Areas” which are in addition to stateroom or barracks space. I’d be curious to see how much “lounge space” p...
by AnotherDilbert
Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:11 pm
Forum: Traveller
Topic: Spacecraft Operations - Running Costs
Replies: 61
Views: 911

Re: Spacecraft Operations - Running Costs

I think it’s strange to not consider Burkes modern warships. As far as I am aware, they are still under construction, to a significantly upgraded design. Isn't that just a restarted emergency program, since the intended replacement failed? As I said - I can't see what Mongoose really did, because I...
by AnotherDilbert
Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:58 pm
Forum: Traveller
Topic: Spacecraft Operations - Running Costs
Replies: 61
Views: 911

Re: Spacecraft Operations - Running Costs

Since we’re now quibbling over what constitutes a modern design, here are images from the USS Gerald Ford, the largest warship ever built, christened in 2013 as the first of its class. I'm surprised seeing such spartan quarters in a modern ship, as it undoubtably is. This seems to indicate that cre...
by AnotherDilbert
Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:30 pm
Forum: Traveller
Topic: Spacecraft Operations - Running Costs
Replies: 61
Views: 911

Re: Spacecraft Operations - Running Costs

Actually that's not right. You have to purchase staterooms in full, so you're allocating 4 dt each time. Yes, that is true, but we can allocate a 2 Dt barrack instead of a half-staterooms, at least if we carry troops. Note that we can theoretically pack in more people per "stateroom", unlike earlie...
by AnotherDilbert
Wed Oct 02, 2019 2:53 pm
Forum: Traveller
Topic: Spacecraft Operations - Running Costs
Replies: 61
Views: 911

Re: Spacecraft Operations - Running Costs

US destroyers fit 30+ to a compartment. There's only a handful of navies in the whole world who operate an equal or better destroyer so I'd consider them still modern. I assume you mean the Arleigh Burke-class. Their combat effectiveness may be modern, but the basic design is cold war. I would not ...
by AnotherDilbert
Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:29 am
Forum: Traveller
Topic: Hello, is that my air/raft?
Replies: 9
Views: 331

Re: Hello, is that my air/raft?

Hm, can Traveller grav vehicles travel underwater..? Assuming they’re adequately water-proofed of course, which I’d assume at least multi-environment vehicles are. Why not? I don't see anything that would make grav drives incompatible with underwater use. I wouldn't assume grav vehicles are general...
by AnotherDilbert
Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:16 am
Forum: Traveller
Topic: Spacecraft Operations - Running Costs
Replies: 61
Views: 911

Re: Spacecraft Operations - Running Costs

Barracks aboard ships can be modeled after how crew quarters are done for those aboard ships today. I don't think modern warships really do barracks for the crew anymore. Crew cabin aboard CV Queen Elizabeth: https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/nintchdbpict000329672190.jpg?strip=all...
by AnotherDilbert
Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:11 am
Forum: Traveller
Topic: Spacecraft Operations - Running Costs
Replies: 61
Views: 911

Re: Spacecraft Operations - Running Costs

I don't believe you should mix rules from different editions and can't quite see how that works. I generally agree, but I certainly do it to fill holes in the rules. For me CT sets the expectations of what Traveller is. CT is quite flexible regarding staterooms. It uses the same basic rules as MgT:...
by AnotherDilbert
Tue Oct 01, 2019 10:03 pm
Forum: Traveller
Topic: Spacecraft Operations - Running Costs
Replies: 61
Views: 911

Re: Spacecraft Operations - Running Costs

Why does a fully crewed Marava have 4 crew and not 6? The weapons are factory fit. Rulebook errata question: Why isn't it 7? The other 200 dton adventure ships have a base crew of 5 and somehow the Marava has 4. It's a copy of the CT S7 Type A2 Empress Marava. One crew-member doing two jobs and opt...
by AnotherDilbert
Tue Oct 01, 2019 11:31 am
Forum: Traveller
Topic: Passenger Ship logistics
Replies: 40
Views: 742

Re: Passenger Ship logistics

Make your own fresh food:
Biosphere
This is an area depicted to flora and fauna, either for the production of food or as a leisure area. Every ton dedicated to a biosphere will eliminate the life support costs for two passengers.
by AnotherDilbert
Tue Oct 01, 2019 10:59 am
Forum: Traveller
Topic: Spacecraft Operations - Running Costs
Replies: 61
Views: 911

Re: Spacecraft Operations - Running Costs

I think we have different rulebooks. My Mongoose HG very clearly says 5 crew for Free Trader, Far Trader and Safari ships. Marava is 6. Marava Far Trader: https://i.imgur.com/YoY4IEU.png 4 crew + 2 optional gunners. Beowulf Free Trader: https://i.imgur.com/NxNdiEZ.png 5 crew. Subbie: https://i.imgu...
by AnotherDilbert
Tue Oct 01, 2019 10:42 am
Forum: Traveller
Topic: Spacecraft Operations - Running Costs
Replies: 61
Views: 911

Re: Spacecraft Operations - Running Costs

I don't understand how you read the rules differently given Mongoose's definition of a stateroom and how many beds they contain (one for single, one bunk for dual). There is no such exact definition. E.g.: Staterooms will be shared (typically four people to a stateroom in bunks) ... Kinunir has bar...